Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sun May 19, 2013 11:02 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Yeah I forgot that.
The funny thing is that a large proportion can't see how damaging it is.
As much as I don't like anyone getting injured the sooner Cena has an enforced lay off the better. Then and only then will the WWE wake up to the situation they are making hopefully.

At the end of the day, superman sells more shirts than probably the rest of the WWE put together. He is their biggest draw whether you love him or hate him. The last event I went to I was thinking "I can't wait to boo the s*** out of Cena" so regardless, he sells tickets.

The main problem I have with the WWE these days is how they commentate like their whole fanbase is 10 years old. It's just insulting to the wrestling fan in general and makes me cringe every episode.

I just wish they could find an in between from the attitude era and the PG era. That would be a start.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Mon May 20, 2013 2:19 pm  

Harrigan wrote:

At the end of the day, superman sells more shirts than probably the rest of the WWE put together. He is their biggest draw whether you love him or hate him. The last event I went to I was thinking "I can't wait to boo the s*** out of Cena" so regardless, he sells tickets.

The main problem I have with the WWE these days is how they commentate like their whole fanbase is 10 years old. It's just insulting to the wrestling fan in general and makes me cringe every episode.

I just wish they could find an in between from the attitude era and the PG era. That would be a start.

He may sell tons of stuff but having him bury everyone is short sighted and WILL hurt them in the long run as there is a massive void that they will struggle to fill when he is gone.
Before anyone starts throwing names like Orton (33) and Shamus (35) around don't bother as they won't be far behind Cena retirement wise (Who will work long after his prime whilst he still sells stuff).
Name me a YOUNG wrestler the WWE have properly pushed recently.
To quote Orton STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Mon May 20, 2013 7:55 pm  

The Shield are getting a decent push and are getting protected while it happens, unlike other pushes people have had where they get creamed every week then get a title win.

Also, surprisingly, they managed to build Ryback back up a little with the ending of the title match last night.

However, I really think that they need to bring back the enhancement talent for Raw and Smackdown. Save the superstar matches for PPV's instead of giving the fans the same match 4 weeks running then expect them to pay for the 5th one.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Mon May 20, 2013 10:06 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

The Shield are getting a decent push and are getting protected while it happens, unlike other pushes people have had where they get creamed every week then get a title win.

Also, surprisingly, they managed to build Ryback back up a little with the ending of the title match last night.

However, I really think that they need to bring back the enhancement talent for Raw and Smackdown. Save the superstar matches for PPV's instead of giving the fans the same match 4 weeks running then expect them to pay for the 5th one.

I agree with what you say about the shield.................Then Cena beats them on his own with 1 good leg last Monday. Now I know they all won last night but then you have to ask why did they to put over superman when he didn't need it anyway?
The thing with Ryback is how many times can 1 guy get beat at a PPV (He didn't win last night either) and still look strong? I don't honestly think they know what to do with him and it's hurting him in the process.

I still stick by the fact that the WWE won't/can't look past Cena and they will pay for it long term

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue May 21, 2013 10:54 am  

Raw is a great show at the moment I think. Quite enjoyed most of Ryback's promo 'til it tailed off towards the end.

But I can't quite believe, though not surprised going by his previous, that HHH buried Curtis Axel so quickly.

Would it be a good move to put ALL the gold on the Shield at some point?

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue May 21, 2013 5:26 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

I agree with what you say about the shield.................Then Cena beats them on his own with 1 good leg last Monday. Now I know they all won last night but then you have to ask why did they to put over superman when he didn't need it anyway?
The thing with Ryback is how many times can 1 guy get beat at a PPV (He didn't win last night either) and still look strong? I don't honestly think they know what to do with him and it's hurting him in the process.

I still stick by the fact that the WWE won't/can't look past Cena and they will pay for it long term

Because WWE are back in the attitude they had in the late 80's early 90's. Hogan was still around but being phased out as he was wanting to become a movie star. So WWE/ Vince thought that because they'd made Hogan into this media icon that they could easily do it again. So the belt goes to Warrior. That's a bust. So in comes Psycho Sid, simply because he's big and muscular. Bust again. Lex Luger? Choke artist. Bret Hart? Buried, ironically, by Hogan and his ego.

But then we start to get the attitude era and guys like Taker, HBK, Stone Cold, The Rock and Foley come along.

But after they go, there's not a lot of new characters coming in to take their spots. And we get the situation we're in now.

However, I think the Shield were shown as strong at the PPV as both title wins were clean and had no outside interference. As for all the gold? I'm not sure it'd be a good idea right now.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue May 21, 2013 9:42 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

Because WWE are back in the attitude they had in the late 80's early 90's. Hogan was still around but being phased out as he was wanting to become a movie star. So WWE/ Vince thought that because they'd made Hogan into this media icon that they could easily do it again. So the belt goes to Warrior. That's a bust. So in comes Psycho Sid, simply because he's big and muscular. Bust again. Lex Luger? Choke artist. Bret Hart? Buried, ironically, by Hogan and his ego.

But then we start to get the attitude era and guys like Taker, HBK, Stone Cold, The Rock and Foley come along.

But after they go, there's not a lot of new characters coming in to take their spots. And we get the situation we're in now.

However, I think the Shield were shown as strong at the PPV as both title wins were clean and had no outside interference. As for all the gold? I'm not sure it'd be a good idea right now.

I understand the history (I did watch it after all) but that still doesn't explain why Cena can never lose to anyone cleanly (Ignore him against the Rock as that has been proved just to be another 'Cena over coming massive odds' again).
I still go back to Cena beating the shield on his own and have to ask why? 3 against 1 means a loss for Cena doesn't hurt him at all but a shield loss there weakens them and all because super Cena needs to strike again.
Let me ask another question does anyone think Cena will drop the gold cleanly if you are being honest?


Let me clarify my position BTW Cena is the WWE top guy so keeping him away from the belt was brave and after over a year it's time he had it back BUT he never left the main event (Always was on last) even without it so how can anyone else push to be the top guy when they face a glass ceiling like that?

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu May 23, 2013 4:56 pm  

RIP Mick McManus.

Makes a change to say that about a wrestler who had a full innings.

Still a better heel that pretty much any guy going today.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:25 pm  

Rampage Jackson signs with TNA, big move for them!

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:28 pm  

Shamus Vs Damien Sandow AGAIN.
This isn't a build its bloody torture.