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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:30 pm  
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One man team again eh :wink:

Has Stevie Me finally passed on the baton? :DANCE:
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:04 pm  
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You're mint. :lol:

Krul's striking the ball on the pic, before the Blackburn player gets near. If your eyesight isn't up to seeing it on the TV replay, I suggest watching it in slow-motion to make it a little easier for you.

So you're basing your argument that Ba's wasn't a penalty as he "probably was holding the defenders shirt too". Superb.

I know exactly who Chris Hoy is cheers, shame the stupid Chelsea fans didn't know who he was on Sunday night when they were sending abuse his way for how he reffed the game. :lol: This one was my personal favourite: CHRIS HOY IS A FUC*IN CU*T WE SHOULD HAVE HAD 3 PENALTIES WHAT A FUC*IN CU*T HOPE HE DIES, SON OF A CU*T :/ #CFC


I've watched the replay far too many times.

In full speed, I still maintain that it looks like the Blackburn player nicked the ball. The speed of the ball after contact, the direction of the ball after contact, the reaction from both players, everything points to the Blackburn player getting to the ball first.

I have however watched the incident back using the frame by frame setting on WMP. That is almost certainly where your pic comes from, and IMO the frames are too far apart to prove anything. Krul looks to be close to kicking the ball in one frame, in the next frame the ball has been kicked but the Rovers player's foot is ahead of Krul's.

I'm sure some geordie twitterer's opinions of Pardew and Ashley would be hilarious and far worse than some Chelsea supporters opinion of Foy or Hoy. Who gives a ****?

The first incident. Do you even admit that Ba shoved the defender when they were about 20m from the area and the ball was coming over the top? He clearly shoves him, the Blackburn player is pushed off balance, but carries on his run too track back. Ba then shepherds the ball into the area, the Blackburn player is tugging at him a little. Ba turns, sticks his arm out to hand off the defender, the defender stumbles and while falling looks to grab hold of Ba's shirt (which your pic captures).

Now, that definitely can be given, as there was clear shirt pulling from the defender, but Ba was also using his arms and was involved in a quick turn while attempting to hold the defender off with his arm.

Given that Ba committed the first offence that went unpunished and given that Ba was using his arms and hands too, you rarely get these decisions. Referees do have a bias against attackers in that position simply because the weight of the decision is much heavier when deciding against a defender in that position.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:37 am  
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That's a shame. With his contract situation it may make it a little easier for you though? With him being out of contract I'm hoping that means we're interested too.

Is it simply down to his fitness that he hasn't been starting? Always looked so dangerous coming off the bench. If we still have Simpson at RB when you come up to SJP next Saturday, Drenthe will tear him a new one. Praying we get Santon in before then or it could get very messy down that wing.


It's a strange one because with no fee having to be agreed we are able to compete for him but as he's available on a free there are going to be a lot of clubs interested, I'd imagine. Hopefully he'll just enjoy his time here and that could give us an advatage.

Yeah it's a fitness thing, he was nowhere near fit enough when he first arrived but now really getting there, I think he announced himself at the club properly this week, his goal at Fulham was outstanding and his, harsh, sending off on Wednesday. He's a luxury player, he'll never both to track back or cover his FB but attacking wise he's got some ability. He's, obviously, suspended today so hopefully he'll be raring to go next Saturday, I don't fancy our chances of a win but looking forward to the visit.

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Has Stevie Me finally passed on the baton? :DANCE:


:lol: :lol:

It's about time he did.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:35 pm  
Absolutely syooperb from Arsenal. Another world class performance from Torres; best striker in the league.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:48 pm  
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Needs to cut it? He's our best player and he was the best player at the Copa just a few months ago. IMO, he's already shown enough to prove how good he is, it's just a matter of consistency now.


How many games has he played for you 20 odd ? Hes played well yes but to call him world class is OTT.

Anyone can look good in the Dutch leage, Kezman and Alves for example.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:50 pm  
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Absolutely syooperb from Arsenal. Another world class performance from Torres; best striker in the league.


Your obsession with Torres is disturbing.

Our defence was awful today, we desperatly need a new right back. Ivanovic was dreadful as was Mikel. Cech had a howler.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:08 pm  
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Cech had a howler.


Pity he didn't have one on Wednesday :wink:
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:10 pm  
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Pity he didn't have one on Wednesday :wink:


Luckily Mucha did :wink:
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:41 pm  
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Luckily Mucha did :wink:


:lol: Horrible performance, there's a reason why he's number two and very rarely gets a look in. Gave a penalty away against West Brom round before and handed you two goals this time. Fingers crossed he'll be released end of the season.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:50 pm  
Refereeing whinge. A goalkeeper rushing out of the box and pulling down a player going in on goal is a red card offence. Absolutely shocking decision from the ref for just show him a yellow.

Thought that our belief and attacking simply disappeared when we went a goal down. When you display less mental strength than Arsenal you've got to worry.

Don't blame JT for the goal, it was a hideous and stupid pass from Malouda. I don't know what the hell is wrong with Malouda but him and Drogba are certainties for the exit in January if they put in a few more performances like they have.
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