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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:35 am  
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One of the worst I've seen, if not thee worst.


:lol: :lol:

The guy has a bruised shin FFS. I have similar from celebrating the goal.

Yes the challenge was reckless and deserved a card, but the outrage has been ridiculous which imo has all been fueled by the reaction of Pardew and comments such about how they couldn't x-ray him as he was too traumatic.

As for one of the worst ever? You haven't seen the Keane challenge on Haaland or the Gerrard two footed dive at an Everton player then? Fellaini I think it was?

Callum went for the ball MADE CONTACT WITH IT and followed through on the man. As I've said he probably should have got booked but one of the worst tackles ever? Ok then.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:40 am  
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130322 ... 70_3118401

Had the tackle been anywhere near as bad as is suggested he wouldn't be back for a long long time.
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130322 ... 70_3118401

Had the tackle been anywhere near as bad as is suggested he wouldn't be back for a long long time.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:54 am  
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http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130322/massadio-haidara-injury-latest_2281670_3118401

Had the tackle been anywhere near as bad as is suggested he wouldn't be back for a long long time.


You, Martinez and Whelan need to sit yourselves in a room and talk bo11ox to each other because all you're doing to do by talking to other people is confirm what a bunch of stupid tvvats you are.

You say that Haidara's injury would be far worse if the tackle was so bad, but the tackle you used as an example to show how victimized you've been resulted in the player getting straight up and playing on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibNPz2yAQvg

Just watch that. See how little contact McManaman makes with the ball with the initial challenge. See how he makes a full impact with Haidara's knee. See how it was McManaman's trailing leg which actually knocked the ball away AND THEN STFU WITH YOUR STUPID WHINING.

McManaman wasn't even penalised for the foul. He received absolutely no punishment for the foul because the lino is as blind as you are stupid. So stop whining because people are peed off because such an ugly, disgraceful tackle went unpunished.
Conroy wrote:
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130322/massadio-haidara-injury-latest_2281670_3118401

Had the tackle been anywhere near as bad as is suggested he wouldn't be back for a long long time.


You, Martinez and Whelan need to sit yourselves in a room and talk bo11ox to each other because all you're doing to do by talking to other people is confirm what a bunch of stupid tvvats you are.

You say that Haidara's injury would be far worse if the tackle was so bad, but the tackle you used as an example to show how victimized you've been resulted in the player getting straight up and playing on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibNPz2yAQvg

Just watch that. See how little contact McManaman makes with the ball with the initial challenge. See how he makes a full impact with Haidara's knee. See how it was McManaman's trailing leg which actually knocked the ball away AND THEN STFU WITH YOUR STUPID WHINING.

McManaman wasn't even penalised for the foul. He received absolutely no punishment for the foul because the lino is as blind as you are stupid. So stop whining because people are peed off because such an ugly, disgraceful tackle went unpunished.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:55 am  
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The guy has a bruised shin FFS. I have similar from celebrating the goal.

Haidara is a lucky chap then. It doesn't lessen the recklessness and stupidity of the challenge.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:10 pm  
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I only read the headline about Warnock. He said he was open to staying in the game. Seems he wants a DOF type role, but doesn't want management any more. I'm not sure there's many managers who'd want him as their DOF.

I think Abramovich was fooled into thinking anyone could manage at Chelsea after he's invested so much money (which was a quote attributed to Bobby Campbell.) Benitez, AVB, Scolari have shown that it's easy to lose control of the team and end up hurtling towards a bridge. I think Ancellotti has proven that a CV including 2 CL wins and an Italian league title doesn't mean he'll be an especially good manager.

And I think Jose now knows that Italy and Spain aren't as good options for him as England. I think our major competition is from Man United. And that's only if Fergie is wanting to retire and hand it over to someone to continue his reign. I think that Fergie will want to retire after picking up another CL win though.


It'd be nice to see Mourinho back in England as that will be good and he's a very intersting fella too. Maybe he will be Man Utd manager one day but I don't think Ferguson will be going from there any time soon so he'll have to wait a few more years I think. I can't see Man Utd winning another CL title inthe next few years really as I think it'll be a while before another English club wins it. Looks like Bayern Munich and Barcelona might swap CL titles for a few years yet.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:20 pm  
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Haidara is a lucky chap then. It doesn't lessen the recklessness and stupidity of the challenge.


That I'm not denying and I've said he should have been punished. My argument is that it's far from the worst challenge ever and the likes of Pardew, Newcastle and Haidara coming out with comments such as they have (Haidara has thanked fans for support during gis injury hell) is making it even worse.

Whether he only takes a small amount of the ball or not he takes it and so imo it shows that that was his intention. He takes the man and should have been punished but if you read/listen to some comments you'd think he'd pulled off a Cantona style kung fu challenge.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:22 pm  
The Westwood challenge BTW he goes in studs up to clear the ball and follows through into the knee and down the leg of Henderson.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:47 pm  
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That I'm not denying and I've said he should have been punished. My argument is that it's far from the worst challenge ever and the likes of Pardew, Newcastle and Haidara coming out with comments such as they have (Haidara has thanked fans for support during gis injury hell) is making it even worse.

Whether he only takes a small amount of the ball or not he takes it and so imo it shows that that was his intention. He takes the man and should have been punished but if you read/listen to some comments you'd think he'd pulled off a Cantona style kung fu challenge.


Personally I could give a toss about the comments of Pardew and his assistant and what they've said since. It's only a few weeks ago that Newcastle beat us after they got away scot free when one of their players kicked Ba in the face and broke his nose. There was no sympathy for us there, no complaints at the ref missing the clear penalty. Later in the game there was no sympathy for Ashley Cole when he got booked for being grabbed around the throat by a Newcastle player. So as far as I'm concerned NUFC can go eff off.

But Pardew's version of events is a lot clearer than yours, Martinez's and that crazy fool that owns your club.

I don't care what his intention was. No one will ever know what his intention was and even McManaman probably doesn't know. But his actions were pretty similar to those of Roy Keane when he did AIH. Now, Keane has admitted that was intentional and pretty much planned for, and he got doubly punished for that disgusting play, but the fact that McManaman has managed a similar impact shows what a dreadful tackle it was. From most of the reports Hadaira will be back fairly soon, but only out of sheer luck because that challenge could have easily screwed up his knee for good. In fact it might still massively affect Hadaira's career. No one knows how his injury is going, least of all you when your excreting the nonsense that he simply bruised his shin.

And given the fact that this is 2013 and FIFA have pretty much had 5(?) years of clamping down on this ridiculous and reckless challenges and driving them out of the game it makes McManaman's challenge even worse.

I don't hold this against McManaman. It was a horrible challenge. He should have got a red. He should have got a 3 match ban. That should have been the end of it. McManaman is a young player just breaking into the first team. The Newcastle game was his first start. The massive nerves associated with making his first start in the PL probably contributed to the challenge.

But the response from you, Martinez and Whelan has been ridiculous. The more nonsense that comes out of Wigan the more I hope you get relegated. I could care less who goes down as long as QPR and Reading do. But with each stupid post you make defending the indefensible I'm beginning to start penciling you in as my third wish for relegation .
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:55 pm  
Newcastle have released details of his injury. I've said the tackle deserved punishment. The reaction afterwards is what I'm criticising and people comparing it to the Keane challenge wgich it clearly wasn't.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:07 am  
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