Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:55 pm  

WarwickUniWolf wrote:

Ha - I'm sympathetic towards McFadden and think if he can stay fit then he could do a good job off the bench. I thought we played really well against Chelsea and Man Utd, having the lion's share of chances in both games, just lacked ruthlessness.

I've never liked him and I don't see the point in him coming back however he is back now so all I hope is he proves me wrong. It has been out problem all season I think mate, we are very wasteful upfront and, until Drenthe finds his fitness, we've not created enough from midfield. Moyes' is to stubborn to chage his formation so unless Saha has good support from midfield we'll never score enough. I think we played better against Man Utd than in most games this season but I'm not sure whether we played well or just better, plus I don't think United ever got out of first gear.

WarwickUniWolf wrote:

I think it will all come together eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later though. Not vital to win at the moment as Newcastle are on good form and St James's Park is a tough cookie, but if we could deliver their first defeat it could provide the confidence to kickstart a solid run up to Christmas.

It'd be great to go and win at SJP tomorrow, we won there last season and it'd be a massive confidence booster if we can but I can see goals tomorrow and I think Newcastle will be able to outscore us. Ba is in great form playing really well but it's Cabaye that worries me he looks a quality player plus they have loads of pace going forward.

WarwickUniWolf wrote:

That said - if Tony Hibbert plays then we might aswell surrender the 3pts prior to kickoff and begin registering for the Championship. Joking .. ish, but he really is an abysmal footballer and he will forever be one player I believe Moyes has allowed to stay 5/6 years too many.

I'll defend Tony Hibbert all day long, mate. People have their opinion of him and that's their choice but having watched him for a very long time the lad can defend. We all know he can't attack and he's not a 'footballer' but defensively there aren't too many better than him.

Guerrier wrote:

Is that not the issue though mate?

As good as he can be, you simply can't rely on him to offer you that on a consistent enough basis.

Exactly mate and that's why we were desperate for a striker like Ba in the summer, Saha is still a quality player and will always score goals but he can't be relyed upon to play week in week out but we have very little back up. Having said that if he was fit enough to play week in week out he wouldn't be an Everton player, he'd probably still be at United.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:57 pm  

Schmeichel
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:05 pm  

Dan_FC wrote:

Saha is still a quality player and will always score goals but he can't be relyed upon to play week in week out but we have very little back up. Having said that if he was fit enough to play week in week out he wouldn't be an Everton player, he'd probably still be at United.

I'm not convinced Saha still has it in him. His performance against United at the weekend was awful. He was so static the whole game. When we played one up front he didn't move at all, didn't make a single run. When Vellios came on he dropped deep and wide, ignoring the ball Vellios was winning.

If I were Moyes I'd have Vellios playing instead of him.

Howard, Coleman, Distin, Jags, Baines, Fellaini, Rodwell, Barclay, Osman, Drenthe, Vellios.

We always seem a lot more lively when Vellios is on that when it's Saha up front on his lonesome.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:55 pm  

Who are the top 3 Scottish goalscorers in the history of the Premier League?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:32 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Who are the top 3 Scottish goalscorers in the history of the Premier League?

Can't think of many! Paul Dickov, Duncan Ferguson?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:33 pm  

Don Hutchinson?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:37 pm  

Gary Mac? Probably not scored enough.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:47 pm  

Is McFadden up there? Surely not.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:00 pm  

McFadden?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:05 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I'm not convinced Saha still has it in him. His performance against United at the weekend was awful. He was so static the whole game. When we played one up front he didn't move at all, didn't make a single run. When Vellios came on he dropped deep and wide, ignoring the ball Vellios was winning.

If I were Moyes I'd have Vellios playing instead of him.

Howard, Coleman, Distin, Jags, Baines, Fellaini, Rodwell, Barclay, Osman, Drenthe, Vellios.

We always seem a lot more lively when Vellios is on that when it's Saha up front on his lonesome.

When fit it has to be Saha playing upfront, his goals against Chelsea and Fulham show he still has the ability when he's fit, the brain still works but the legs don't. Vellios is keen and looks like he has something about him but he's easily lost in games, if you're going to start him you either need someone along side him or put Cahill behind him. He'd be completely dominated by any decent CB in that team.

Coleman at right back? Have you seen the lad defend, or try too? He's awful at it which is why he plays right midfield. By playing him there we get the best out of him, it's pointless playing him RB. Barkley is nowhere near ready to be starting games, he's got potential and bags of it but he isn't ready to start playing games in the PL.