Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:35 pm  

Karlos13 wrote:

Am off to watch Utd reserves vs Wigan tonight. If Wigan have any black players I will call them a negrito. I'm sure they will welcome such terrace banter.

Yeah it's just banter after all isn't it?. In fact they'll probably all shake your hand after the match too.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:37 pm  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

Yeah it's just banter after all isn't it?. In fact they'll probably all shake your hand after the match too.

Yeah might even get a beer out of it as well.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:54 pm  

Karlos13 wrote:

Yeah might even get a beer out of it as well.

Maybe there'll be some Uruguayans there and you can share some proper negrito banter. I remember going to a Liverpool reserves game once and seen Sebastian Leto's family at a game, they were well up for that sort of stuff being South American 'n all. Good job everyone in the stadium knew they were speaking their own language and weren't being racist, otherwise they'd probably have been done in by the uber-PC Warrington public.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:55 pm  

I'm amused that some people seem to think that, because racist banter is seen as acceptable in other countries then that country's people can move over here and continue their backward ways??....

If we are happy with that, then what about Pakistani father's who punish, and sometimes kill, their daughters for refusing to marry the man they choose for them??.....That's a cultural thing, so surely with some people's thinking, it could become an acceptable thing over here too?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:17 pm  

It will be interesting to see what kind of reception Terry and Suarez get at away grounds if both found guilty.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:36 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

I'm all for punishing racism. I said when allegations first came out, if they can find Suarez guilty and prove it, then ban him for as long as you like. There's no place for it. Problem is, we aren't in the loop so we're pretty clueless as to what has and hasn't been said. The media are reporting rumours and allegations on it, but in terms of fact, there isn't too much.

As that racism fella said, both players deserve their day at court, it's not fair to find a party guilty before he has a chance to defend his name and honour, especially when there's no actual evidence to prove he done anything.

With Terry's allegations, it's a little different because there was solid evidence of him saying things, his defence seems to be the sort of thing you hear on a playground. You know, if somebody said to you "did you just call me a black c**t?", you don't reply by quoting them then calling them a 'nobhead', even during a game, you'd try and clear it up, especially as the case with Suarez and Evra was fresh in the news, and especially if you're England captain and have to have the perfect image on and off the field. The way the FA have hidden behind the police investigation is laughable, if anything, they've supported him by allowing him to lead the national side.

Now that Suarez has been charged I suppose he'll get his chance to put his defence forward at the hearing that will now follow. As for the Terry incident I can't believe it's still dragging on, there's picture evidence from Sky that show the whole situation, surely this should be sorted out by now. I don't agree that they've supported him by allowing to be the captain of England until it is proved one way or the other but surely there should be a decision on it by now.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:36 pm  

William Bonney wrote:

It will be interesting to see what kind of reception Terry and Suarez get at away grounds if both found guilty.

Whether found innocent or guilty, I think Terry will be getting the same reception that he has for the last few years.

I think Suarez wil get a similar reaction to the one that Ryan Giggs gets after it was revealed he cheated on his wife for years with his brother's wife.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:33 pm  

Delighted to see the Premier League best midfielder sign his new deal at Everton today. Made up with that. I just hope it's not a Sam Tomkins-esque deal where his next move is already signed and sealed.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:58 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Delighted to see the Premier League best midfielder sign his new deal at Everton today. Made up with that. I just hope it's not a Sam Tomkins-esque deal where his next move is already signed and sealed.

Probably a 'suits-all' deal......Contract extension keeps his value up, which is good for the club, while there are probably clauses in there, freeing him if Champions League sides come knocking in the next few years.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:18 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I'm amused that some people seem to think that, because racist banter is seen as acceptable in other countries then that country's people can move over here and continue their backward ways??....

If we are happy with that, then what about Pakistani father's who punish, and sometimes kill, their daughters for refusing to marry the man they choose for them??.....That's a cultural thing, so surely with some people's thinking, it could become an acceptable thing over here too?

But if it isn't seen as racist in another country, then there is a clash. The word he's alleged to have used is seen in a similar light to 'mate' and 'pal'. Harmless, no malice and completely non-offensive. It may be offensive over here, purely because it sounds like 'negro', but over there it isn't and that's where a clash comes in. Comparing an alleged insult to murdering a daughter is absolute idiocy. I know the point you're trying to make, but there are probably better examples to use than that.