Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:08 pm  

So the FA say biting is worse than racism? Fair enough, that is their decision but it will be interesting to see if they are consistent in future instances (which I doubt very much).

And we are "shocked and disappointed" about the ban. God knows why the club cannot just accept it and move on. Their response is just going to illicit more scrutiny and the saga will rumble on. Me personally, I wish he would just f*** off somewhere else.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:11 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Kick It Out will no doubt be kicking in a huge fuss over it. And it won't matter what the written reasons will be, because they won't bother to read it anyway.

Oh, there is no doubt that d***head Peter Herbert will have his say on the situation.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:15 pm  

10 matches for that? Ridiculous. It's a niggly reaction, the equivalent of kicking out at a player. Beckham got an OBE for that. No way on earth was that bite worse than racism.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:15 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

So the FA say biting is worse than racism?

No. Stupid people surmise that because they're stupid.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:17 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

No. Stupid people surmise that because they're stupid.

According to quite a few people, that is their stance on it.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:20 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

No. Stupid people surmise that because they're stupid.

You'll need to englighten us John because I'm not sure how else people are supposed to interpret the ban.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:21 pm  

McClennan wrote:

10 matches for that? Ridiculous. It's a niggly reaction, the equivalent of kicking out at a player.

He didn't get 10 matches just for that. He got 10 matches for doing that -1) After doing it before and getting a 7 match ban for it 2) Last season he was given an 8 match ban for racial abuse and warned about his future conduct. He then preceded to act like a complete c**k and claim he was stitched up, dive and continually cheat his way through matches.

Beckham got an OBE for that.

Really? The Queen was watching the England-Argentina game, was supporting Argentina and wanted to reward him for costing England the game?

No way on earth was that bite worse than racism.

Depends on the racism. If Lionel Messi is accused of racist behaviour, no one GAF.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:24 pm  

McClennan wrote:

You'll need to englighten us John because I'm not sure how else people are supposed to interpret the ban.

Here's what I wrote a few pages back when I was guessing what he'd get:

He can't deny it because it's clear from about 5 different angles. He was trying to practice snogging on Ivanovic's arm or he was biting him.

TBH it's difficult to imagine what punishment they're going to come out with. The 7 match ban he got in Holland is a reference. That was worse because he drew blood, but this is his second offence so clearly the 7 matches he missed didn't work.

IMO he was trying to goad Ivanovic into smacking him so he could fall down, get a pen and get Ivanovic sent off. You can tell with the way he was appealing and then limping around afterwards. Now, while that is a defence in that he wasn't biting with violent intent, it's not much of a defence to the football authorities to be saying the reason you bit someone was to cheat the ref into getting a pen.

Add on his appalling record of things he has been done for, the bad things he's got away with, the lack of repentance over Evra, his changing excuses over Evra with every interview, it could be a difficult hearing for him.

Then consider that other head case Barton. He got 12 matches for pretending to be a hard case. And that was 12 matches plus the red card he got which could (should) have sent his side down. Barton may have a bit of solidarity with Suarez because they are both scouse head cases, but if Suarez gets less than Barton I think he has the right to ask why.

Robby has said it on here, that if you take the "spark" out of him then he's half the player. Football doesn't have to accept that. If he can't play the game without biting someone then he shouldn't be playing the game. If Suarez without the spark results in another Downing, then Liverpool should have another Downing.

What do I think he should get? I think he should get 8 matches. But if he is caught biting, or attempting to bite, another player in the next 4 years then I think he should get an automatic 1 year ban. I don't know if the rules can allow this, but I think if he gets a red card for straight violent conduct in the future he doesn't pick up a 3 match ban, it starts at 8 with the possibility to be increased.

I've got a feeling the FA are going to go ultra "sensitive" and go along with the excuse that he's got anger management issues. No doubt Tony Adams will be wheeled in to pick up a new client. I don't care if that happens, but it's got to be as well as a strong ban, not instead of it.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:54 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

He didn't get 10 matches just for that. He got 10 matches for doing that -1) After doing it before and getting a 7 match ban for it 2) Last season he was given an 8 match ban for racial abuse and warned about his future conduct. He then preceded to act like a complete c**k and claim he was stitched up, dive and continually cheat his way through matches.

Okay I understand the cumulative aspect, however have the FA applied that sort of ruling before?

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Really? The Queen was watching the England-Argentina game, was supporting Argentina and wanted to reward him for costing England the game?

I was being flippant although the two incidents are comparable i.e. Beckham didn't get a ten match ban.

Don't know if somebody has mentioned it already but Rohan Ricketts has tweeted taht Jermaine Defoe bit Mascherano in 2006, received a booking and no ban. That seems like a sensible decision. I mean, if he'd bitten his ear off different story but it was nothing other a "let go of me" reaction, akin to kicking out at someone.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:55 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

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Thanks for that. There's been too many posts for me to catch up with.