Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:15 pm  

We had a debate a few pages back about the Aviva Premiership attendances and the effect of the World Cup

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm  

Dunbar wrote:

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance?

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:24 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Dunbar wrote:

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance?

Not particularly, Newcastle and Sale each had two home and two away fixtures in the four rounds since round 7. If you were to discount the Twickenham double header in round 1 from the stats then the averages would be 9,212 before round 7 and 10,646 after but seeing as though the teams like to include the Twickenham fixtures to show stronger season averages then I thought I should include

If you discount the Twickenham games then the overall season average is 9,805

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:36 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Dunbar wrote:

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance?

I'd wager Sale Sharks get better crowds than Wasps and Exeter.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:54 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Andy Gilder wrote:

Dunbar wrote:

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance?

I'd wager Sale Sharks get better crowds than Wasps and Exeter.

This season’s averages high to low excluding Twickenham games

Leicester Tigers 19,503
Northampton Saints 12,990
Gloucester Rugby 12,918
Harlequins 11,447
Bath Rugby 11,384
Worcester Warriors 9,163
London Irish 7,646
Sale Sharks 7,287
Exeter Chiefs 7,187
London Wasps 6,401
Saracens 6,018
Newcastle Falcons 4,528
Overall 9,805

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:05 pm  

Saracens and Harlequins will spike after the Wembley game.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:56 pm  

Dunbar wrote: Andy Gilder wrote: Dunbar wrote: Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646 An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance? Not particularly, Newcastle and Sale each had two home and two away fixtures in the four rounds since round 7. If you were to discount the Twickenham double header in round 1 from the stats then the averages would be 9,212 before round 7 and 10,646 after but seeing as though the teams like to include the Twickenham fixtures to show stronger season averages then I thought I should include If you discount the Twickenham games then the overall season average is 9,805 Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7

Dunbar wrote: Andy Gilder wrote: Dunbar wrote: Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646 An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance? Not particularly, Newcastle and Sale each had two home and two away fixtures in the four rounds since round 7. If you were to discount the Twickenham double header in round 1 from the stats then the averages would be 9,212 before round 7 and 10,646 after but seeing as though the teams like to include the Twickenham fixtures to show stronger season averages then I thought I should include If you discount the Twickenham games then the overall season average is 9,805 Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:54 pm  

Dunbar wrote:

Catalancs wrote:

Andy Gilder wrote:

Dunbar wrote:

Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646

An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance?

I'd wager Sale Sharks get better crowds than Wasps and Exeter.

This season’s averages high to low excluding Twickenham games

Leicester Tigers 19,503
Northampton Saints 12,990
Gloucester Rugby 12,918
Harlequins 11,447
Bath Rugby 11,384
Worcester Warriors 9,163
London Irish 7,646
Sale Sharks 7,287
Exeter Chiefs 7,187
London Wasps 6,401
Saracens 6,018
Newcastle Falcons 4,528
Overall 9,805

Dire for Newcastle- how do they keep going? And poor for Irish, I'd been told that they were trying to establish themselves as THE rugby brand between Reading and Southampton- and 7.6k is pretty dire.

In fact that's the strange thing- awful crowds in the largest catchment areas. Wasps' behaviour towards the town of High Wycombe and its football team clearly hasn't been missed.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:59 pm  

gutterfax wrote: Dunbar wrote: Andy Gilder wrote: Dunbar wrote: Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646 An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance? Not particularly, Newcastle and Sale each had two home and two away fixtures in the four rounds since round 7. If you were to discount the Twickenham double header in round 1 from the stats then the averages would be 9,212 before round 7 and 10,646 after but seeing as though the teams like to include the Twickenham fixtures to show stronger season averages then I thought I should include If you discount the Twickenham games then the overall season average is 9,805 Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7 A reference to Rugby League on this thread from gutterfax, what a surprise! Of course double headers are relevant crowds but sometimes they mask an underlying problem of clubs losing their ‘core’ support at their home grounds – I’m sure that Saracens will announce a fantastic average attendance after the Twickenham and Wembley double headers despite attracting just 6,000 a week to Watford

gutterfax wrote: Dunbar wrote: Andy Gilder wrote: Dunbar wrote: Interesting to note that the average attendance up to and inclusive of Round 6 was 11,780 and the since round 7 (which started Friday the 28th of October, the week after the World Cup final) the average attendance has been 10,646 An extra couple of Newcastle and Sale home games tilting the balance? Not particularly, Newcastle and Sale each had two home and two away fixtures in the four rounds since round 7. If you were to discount the Twickenham double header in round 1 from the stats then the averages would be 9,212 before round 7 and 10,646 after but seeing as though the teams like to include the Twickenham fixtures to show stronger season averages then I thought I should include If you discount the Twickenham games then the overall season average is 9,805 Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7 A reference to Rugby League on this thread from gutterfax, what a surprise! Of course double headers are relevant crowds but sometimes they mask an underlying problem of clubs losing their ‘core’ support at their home grounds – I’m sure that Saracens will announce a fantastic average attendance after the Twickenham and Wembley double headers despite attracting just 6,000 a week to Watford

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:32 pm  

gutterfax wrote: Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7 Try posting that here gf I think counting events such as double-headers and the Magic weekend in a club's attendance figures is at the very least highly embarrassing.

gutterfax wrote: Double headers are still relevant "crowds". See round 12 here http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#7 Try posting that here gf I think counting events such as double-headers and the Magic weekend in a club's attendance figures is at the very least highly embarrassing.