Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:36 pm  

Cas Till I Die wrote:

On Redknapp, if he manages to get most pf he mercenaries out and put a decent championship squad together while preparing QPR for the prem ala West Ham and Newcastle.... Id argue he would have done a good job tbh.

If Redknapp does that next season he will have done a good job. But that's next season. THIS season, IMO he's sucked ass. He came in on great money to save QPR from relegation. There was never any moment when it looked like he'd actually do that job. In fact pretty soon after he came in he was pointing to the players, telling people how much money they were on, and saying QPR had been mugs for buying the players they did.

This season I think Redknapp has stolen his wages just as bad as the overpaid players.

Getting rid of overpaid players who don't care about their performances is going to be almost impossible. It makes it even harder when you're the one who's been telling everyone what a bunch of mercenaries they are.

From everything that's been written, I think QPR have saddled all the players on stupid money and haven't protected themselves in the event of relegation. They might get lucky with the sale of a couple, but they're either stuck with most of them or they're taking a huge hit to get them out of the door.

For me Hughes and Redknapp have done nothing that would not have been done under Warnock except waste tens of millions of pounds doing it.

I don't think that there should be any sympathy anywhere for QPR. The owner is a fool who has shown himself up - he's a West Ham fan who wanted to buy a shareholding in WHU. Well that pooch is well and truly screwed. They seem to excel at employing terrible managers. They've bought a bunch of bad players. Their 10,000 fans are a bunch of lovers. Quite frankly they have been a waste of a PL place and hopefully they will disappear to their natural level of fighting with Brentford.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:32 pm  

Good post LGJM.

In the few weeks leading up to the relegation confirmation, all we had from pundits was 'well, he didn't have the whole season, he's inherited the mess of previous managers'' etc, but i'm sorry, this season he was in charge of QPR for TWICE the amount of time that he wasn't in charge of them, and he did, let's not forget, bring in Samba on stupid wages, and Remy, who i doubt was on pittance. I've nothing against QPR at all, and i feel genuinely sorry for the fans, who probably saw this overspending coming if 'Arry took over and probably feared the worse.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:12 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

If Redknapp does that next season he will have done a good job. But that's next season. THIS season, IMO he's sucked ass. He came in on great money to save QPR from relegation. There was never any moment when it looked like he'd actually do that job. In fact pretty soon after he came in he was pointing to the players, telling people how much money they were on, and saying QPR had been mugs for buying the players they did.

This season I think Redknapp has stolen his wages just as bad as the overpaid players.

Getting rid of overpaid players who don't care about their performances is going to be almost impossible. It makes it even harder when you're the one who's been telling everyone what a bunch of mercenaries they are.

From everything that's been written, I think QPR have saddled all the players on stupid money and haven't protected themselves in the event of relegation. They might get lucky with the sale of a couple, but they're either stuck with most of them or they're taking a huge hit to get them out of the door.

For me Hughes and Redknapp have done nothing that would not have been done under Warnock except waste tens of millions of pounds doing it.

I don't think that there should be any sympathy anywhere for QPR. The owner is a fool who has shown himself up - he's a West Ham fan who wanted to buy a shareholding in WHU. Well that pooch is well and truly screwed. They seem to excel at employing terrible managers. They've bought a bunch of bad players. Their 10,000 fans are a bunch of lovers. Quite frankly they have been a waste of a PL place and hopefully they will disappear to their natural level of fighting with Brentford.

An interesting piece and fair piece too from you there but you went and spoiled it with certain comments in your last paragraph by once again bypassing certain filters again which really is unnecessary and to refer to QPR fans in that way as a bunch of lovers. I bet you don't know any personally but it is easy to hide behind a keyboard isn't it and say these things ? My lot certainly haven't covered themselves with glory and the names of those I can mention who are guilty are many especially with the wages they'll have been on and they should be ashamed of themselves but I doubt that will be happening one little bit. Just remember where Chelsea might have been without the money of Mr. Abramovich because I remember when Chelsea were not exactly covering themselves with glory either and I hope you appreciate what he's brought to your club in regards to great players.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 6:54 am  

Mourinho, completely outclassed by a coach who shows that you don't have to spend hundreds of millions to win, that you don't have to grind your way to the CL final, and you don't have to be a classless POS to gain an edge over your opponent, sometimes good old fashioned tactics will do the job. So glad he never reached the final with that Madrid side.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 9:05 am  

Roddy B wrote:

Mourinho, completely outclassed by a coach who shows that you don't have to spend hundreds of millions to win, that you don't have to grind your way to the CL final, and you don't have to be a classless POS to gain an edge over your opponent, sometimes good old fashioned tactics will do the job. So glad he never reached the final with that Madrid side.

It was a close thing at the end though. If Ramos had made it 3 - 0 then all hell would have broke loose in the stadium ! I don't think Mourinho is a classless POS but it was sour grapes in him saying the Dortmund player handled the ball and should have been sent off. I thought he had handled it but it was accidental. When Mourinho goes to Chelsea he'll do very well indeed as long as Abramovich doesn't try to tell him what to do.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 9:29 am  

Roddy B wrote:

and you don't have to be a classless POS to gain an edge over your opponent, sometimes good old fashioned tactics will do the job.

Like pretending a player is injured for 5 minutes when your opponents are on top and look like they might win?

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 8:52 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Like pretending a player is injured for 5 minutes when your opponents are on top and look like they might win?

What, the act Drogba made his trademark for years at Chelsea? Probably pumped into him by gent like Mourinho.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 9:49 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

What, the act Drogba made his trademark for years at Chelsea? Probably pumped into him by gent like Mourinho.

I remember plenty of times when Drogba went down injured because he was a big pussy. There were plenty of times when he'd be down and we'd be attacking without him because he wouldn't move until he'd received the okay from the physio that he wasn't dying. At Barca last season he definitely stayed down a few times longer than he needed to. Personally I thought the ref should have just waved play on and left Drogba laying on the floor. It's the ref's fault he didn't.

I've got no problem with that kind of BS. If Real Madrid didn't want that happening they shouldn't have got smacked 4-1 in Germany and they shouldn't have left it till the last 10 minutes of their match last night to try and rescue the game.

But what I do have a problem with is a fool like you kissing Klopp's booty and saying he's all class and above all that when he clearly isn't.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 10:11 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

But what I do have a problem with is a fool like you kissing Klopp's booty and saying he's all class and above all that when he clearly isn't.

Class and above? Not sure about that, but he's certainly got more class than Mourinho as a person. Mourinho is only ever graceful when it suits him, whether it's bullying referees or eye-gouging opposition coaching staff, he's hardly shown himself to be a classy guy, despite his a*se-kissing attempts after they KOd United.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 01, 2013 10:35 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Class and above? Not sure about that, but he's certainly got more class than Mourinho as a person. Mourinho is only ever graceful when it suits him, whether it's bullying referees or eye-gouging opposition coaching staff, he's hardly shown himself to be a classy guy, despite his a*se-kissing attempts after they KOd United.

Maybe Klopp does have more class than Mourinho as a person. One day he may even be as classy as Brenton or Suarez. But you should really give him more than 5 minutes in the spotlight to actually show that. You've already said he didn't need those type of tactics when Tuesday showed he was perfectly willing to use them.