Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:22 am  

Gronk! wrote:

I'd go with:
1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Rivers
4. P. Manning
5. Brees
6. Roethlisberger
7. Freeman
8. Ryan
9. Schaub
10. Vick (based on last year alone, now he actually shows some tendencies to actually be a QB)

Eli would probably be 11...then Jay Cutler is just awful and would be somewhere like #28 or something.

And you mean score a TD in the final 2 minutes not just win the game right? Brady got into FG range to win it against the Rams...others will have got into FG range too.

Yeah, meant a TD. I'm guessing you remember it well.

18-1

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:28 am  

How about best RB's?

1. Peterson
2. Johnson
3. Rice
4. Charles
5. MJD
6. McFadden
7. Gore
8. Turner
9. Jackson
10.Hillis

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:32 am  

Anybody ever bought any NFL dvd's from the states? Got quite a few. Can get them quite cheap.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:39 am  

Harrigan wrote:

Freeman has a better skill set than Roethlisberger IMO. He is better on his feet and seems to know what to do almost straight away. Big Ben can sometimes seem a bit lost on what to do which forces bad decisions. He's also not as nimble footed. Free is deceptively quick for a 6'5, 240lb guy.

Ill put this to you too. Had the Jets drafted Freeman over Sanchize I firmly believe they would have been in at least 1 of the last 2 SB's

The lad has had 1 good season, 1. Yet your anointing in him as a superstar. You would have him over a QB who's career QB rating is fractionally lower than Freemans best? Oh yeah Big Ben is also pretty decent in the playoffs

Then putting him above Matt Ryan Really? Sorry but

Freeman is a good young QB. But there is no way in hell he is a better player than the 2 above. Absolutely no way. In a couple of years then maybe yes. But at the moment he's had 1 flat track bully season where he's looked good.

My top 10 QB's in no particular order are Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Vick, Schaub, Roethlisberger and Flacco. I was torn between Flacco, Schaub and Eli so went on gut feeling.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:52 am  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

The lad has had 1 good season, 1. Yet your anointing in him as a superstar. You would have him over a QB who's career QB rating is fractionally lower than Freemans best? Oh yeah Big Ben is also pretty decent in the playoffs

Then putting him above Matt Ryan Really? Sorry but

Freeman is a good young QB. But there is no way in hell he is a better player than the 2 above. Absolutely no way. In a couple of years then maybe yes. But at the moment he's had 1 flat track bully season where he's looked good.

My top 10 QB's in no particular order are Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Vick, Schaub, Roethlisberger and Flacco. I was torn between Flacco, Schaub and Eli so went on gut feeling.

Indeed, and don't forget the Bucs won only one game against a team with a winning record last year, and that came in the final game of the season. This season will be the proper test for Freeman and we'll know a lot more about whether he's going to be a quality QB in the league by the end of the year. For now he'd struggle to make my top 10.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:15 pm  

Award predictions for 2011-

MVP - Aaron Rodgers
OPOY-Michael Vick
DPOY-DeMarcus Ware
OROY-Green
DPOY-Patrick Peterson
COTY-Pat Shurmur

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:27 pm  

Mark wrote:

Schaub isn't all that. Never accomplished anything. Don't rate him at all. No bottle when it counts. We know you HATE Eli tez.

Schaub & Mario Williams are the constant quality players in Houston. Now they're changing to a 3-4 D and de valuing one of those players! Then people will continue to say That Schaub isn't that good even though he'll put up good numbers.

You're right, I do hate Eli mate. I always will! I can be level headed about him though (if you catch me on the right day!).

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:36 pm  

Except he's been good since he came into the league. As a starter he is 13-12 and blew away most of the premier QB's 1st year totals last year. I dont buy into all this "Tampa were only good because they had a weak scedule B.S.".

We were the team everyone wanted to play last year. ESPN ran a segment on us last preseason saying "Bucs... over/under 3 wins." The panelists said under! Not only did we match the team we played in 13 of the 16 games we played last year, we did it spending a hell of a lot let than everyone else in the league. And the majority of the wins were down to 1 person. The guy we are on about here.

I dont mind the scepticism though. Hey, i'd probably be saying the same in your shoes. Just dont be surprised if we grab a wildcard slot this year and make an impact on the playoffs.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:50 pm  

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-in ... eem-Morris Warren Sapp interview with Rah. It was a segment on TA last night. Pretty good look into what he wants and expects out of the Bucs in the coming future. I've gotta say though, I know why the players want to play for him. Full of s*** or not, he make's you believe what he says. The energy he has when talking about us gets me excited.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-in ... eem-Morris Warren Sapp interview with Rah. It was a segment on TA last night. Pretty good look into what he wants and expects out of the Bucs in the coming future. I've gotta say though, I know why the players want to play for him. Full of s*** or not, he make's you believe what he says. The energy he has when talking about us gets me excited.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:01 pm  

Harrigan wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d82182c6c/Camp-conversations-Raheem-Morris

Warren Sapp interview with Rah. It was a segment on TA last night. Pretty good look into what he wants and expects out of the Bucs in the coming future. I've gotta say though, I know why the players want to play for him. Full of s*** or not, he make's you believe what he says. The energy he has when talking about us gets me excited.

I think you could possibly catch the Falcons as I think they were exceeding expectations last year. I think you will be 7-9 in all honesty. If that. For the record, I doubt we will do anything special.