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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue May 07, 2013 2:36 pm  
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If that were the case (Can't see it personally), the only thing it could be is a progressive handover process from Sir Alex. Moyes isn't going to give up the job at Everton, where he is very well paid and very secure in his role, to be the assistant at United.


Not sure that a progressive handover would work. The media would continually ask Moyes what assurances he'd been given, when he expected to take over. Fergie would be continually asked if he'd agreed a retirement date. Existing and prospective players would want to know who they would be signing for. Its a recipe for continuous speculation.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue May 07, 2013 3:21 pm  
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Not sure that a progressive handover would work. The media would continually ask Moyes what assurances he'd been given, when he expected to take over. Fergie would be continually asked if he'd agreed a retirement date. Existing and prospective players would want to know who they would be signing for. Its a recipe for continuous speculation.


Man Utd would say that Moyes had been given a 4 year contract. Ferguson also had a 4 year contract. Any further questions would simply be ignored. Any journo who asked the same boring question more than a couple of times would simply be banned.

I don't think a single Man Utd player would be that concerned over who the boss was. If you're signing for Man Utd to play for Ferguson or to play for Moyes. Have Barca had anyone thinking of leaving because "new guy" is in charge? Are Barca now less desirable than they were under Guardiola? Chelsea have still bought lots of players even with their managerial turmoil. A handover period between Ferguson and Moyes is hardly a concern when Fergie could stay on for years anyway. The main difference to United players is that they used to work primarily with Phelan with Fergie overseeing and they would be working with Moyes with Fergie overseeing. To anybody with any sense, that's an improvement.

There's always going to be speculation because Fergie is old and has already considered retirement. There was even questions over his hip operation and would he be continuing. Moyes coming in as assistant being groomed to take the top job pretty much stops that.

I actually think it would be a strong move from Man United. Fergie is going to be recovering from his operation next season and Moyes can take up that slack.

I still think that Mourinho blows Moyes out of the water as a superior choice for Man Utd. But Fergie doesn't seem to want to go right now and Mourinho is too expensive to come in as an assistant and he wouldn't do it anyway. But I think that Moyes as assistant and then taking over from the retiring Fergie is a good option compared to someone from Europe who will need time to adjust to the PL.

The only risk for Moyes is that him and Fergie don't get on and he loses Fergie's recommendation after a while. But I think that's a minor risk compared to a tricky job like Spurs or the Geordies. Moyes is out of contract so he's free to go to United. I reckon United could probably pay him the same to be their assistant as he is on at Everton. I think there's a tonne of good reasons for this, but it is probably BS anyway.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue May 07, 2013 8:15 pm  
Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2013/may/06/anfield-liverpool-david-conn

Liverpool show their class.

@evilaundria - "Indeed, both shamful and shameful. Although it can only be a matter of time before a member of the Anfield faithful tells us that forcibly evicting people from their homes - like biting and racial abuse - is actually considered a gesture of affection in both Liverpool and Uruguay."


Nothing new really. The situation is truly shocking and walking around Anfield is probably one of the more disturbing things I've ever had to encounter. You wouldn't believe areas like that existed any more in Britain, let alone next to the stadium of a supposed footballing 'giant'. As admirable as the locals' fight is, I really can't believe they've hung on to their property for so long, I just can't believe people would live in those surroundings.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 1:12 am  
Fergie set to announce retirement by the weekend

Interesting. If it is true hopefully they have sneaked in ahead of Chelsea and lined up Mourinho to take over. Just hope that they've not gone for Moyes!
Fergie set to announce retirement by the weekend

Interesting. If it is true hopefully they have sneaked in ahead of Chelsea and lined up Mourinho to take over. Just hope that they've not gone for Moyes!
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 6:40 am  
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Fergie set to announce retirement by the weekend

Interesting. If it is true hopefully they have sneaked in ahead of Chelsea and lined up Mourinho to take over. Just hope that they've not gone for Moyes!



Couldn't agree more.
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Fergie set to announce retirement by the weekend

Interesting. If it is true hopefully they have sneaked in ahead of Chelsea and lined up Mourinho to take over. Just hope that they've not gone for Moyes!



Couldn't agree more.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 6:45 am  
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'At the end of a day of intense rumours of Sir Alex Ferguson's imminent retirement, which included pronounced betting patterns which saw bookmakers slash their odds on Everton manager David Moyes replacing the Scot at Old Trafford, there had been neither confirmation nor denial that Ferguson is ready to deliver a shock announcement.'

whilst I've stated my admiration for Moyes and what he has achieved with no money to spend, it smacks of just looking for another hard faced scot to step into his shoes.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 8:12 am  
Moyes is worth a go. He has a lot of the same attributes as Ferguson in terms of man management and discipline. He might be a lesser man tactically, but with the players he'd have at Old Trafford, he wouldn't have to worry too much.

There is also the fact that whoever goes in there is likely to be a sacrificial lamb. Whoever replaces Ferguson will likely suffer and bringing in an out of contract Moyes on the cheap to play that role isn't much of a risk.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 8:27 am  
He's officially gorrrrrrrnnnnnn.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 8:27 am  
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 08, 2013 8:38 am  
They can have Nigel Worthington. Not arsed for compensation and I'll drive him there myself.
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