Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:30 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Why? Genuine question......why would you watch a sport you don't like?

Why what? relating to the scrums, to Lancasters tactics, to Wales's failure, to Why the BBC forked out £40M/year???? You're being very ambiguous.
Genuine question, why do you bother reading & commenting in response to another poster when you don't like what it says nor even understand the content??

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:25 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Why what? relating to the scrums, to Lancasters tactics, to Wales's failure, to Why the BBC forked out £40M/year???? You're being very ambiguous.
Genuine question, why do you bother reading & commenting in response to another poster when you don't like what it says nor even understand the content??

Why watch a sport you don't like and don't understand? Are the population of the uk stupid because they tune in in larger numbers for wales v south Africa than for a rlwc semi between England and NZ? Are the bbc wrong to pay 40,000,000 for 70,000,000 eyeballs?
Union is not as good as league in our eyes, but to question its fans or finances smacks of insecurity.

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:41 am  

I think it down to this. R.U is poorer on the pitch but is packaged as an event....a part of a full day of socialising.

R.L is a better specticle on the pitch but isn't marketed very well and desperately needs international success to broaden its appeal.

There i have had my two bob's worth....carry on!

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:10 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Why watch a sport you don't like and don't understand? Are the population of the uk stupid because they tune in in larger numbers for wales v south Africa than for a rlwc semi between England and NZ? Are the bbc wrong to pay 40,000,000 for 70,000,000 eyeballs?
Union is not as good as league in our eyes, but to question its fans or finances smacks of insecurity.

Well a) it's none of your loving business, b) who says I dislike it? c) i understand the sport as equally if not better than than you do.

I catch up as I'm curious as to how the national team are doing. I get frustrated that nothing much has changed re the scrums since I stopped playing, I first played at the age of 12 (we had to play union as well as league back in those days) I know the rules very well & I was a flanker cum inside centre when I was asked to play the odd game in the off season in my older years..

Now, I'll ask you again, why again do you feel the need to comment on what another poster writes if you don't understand what they have said and try to second guess what that poster likes/dislikes? Is it a cry for help, are you feeling suicidal that you need to come up with a response to everything you hate or can't understand??
I suggest you get professional help as you sound like you're on the edge of a breakdown

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:13 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

I suggest you get professional help as you sound like you're on the edge of a breakdown

Not satisfied with your claim to know more about Rugby Union than me, you're now on a freudian trip too?

Let's look at your post again shall we?

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

I'm so glad the BBC are paying £40M a year for this poop, I tried watching it, found the rewind button and just fast forwarded the dull bits. I counted one scrum at 105 seconds between the ball going dead to ball coming out..they seriously need to sort that out at international level.
Everyone saying Wales should win given England's loss of players but the way Lancaster uses his tactics he can stifle a game really easily in the forwards and England have a decent pack especially the back 3.
Was Hartley any good?

So....the BBC paying £40M for "this poop" is what you open with. I have explained that "this poop" attracts 70,000,000 viewers in the UK alone. It is steeped in history with the only changes to the comp being the addition of France and then Italy from the original home nations comp and it induces jingoistic rivalries with some nations considering victory over England more important than winning the whole comp.

Then you continue that you "tried watching it" and that you "fast forwarded" through it, only to stop and actually time a scrum?

I doubt there is a commentator or supporter of Union who doesn't agree with you about the scrum. I too have played Union and not just at schoolboy level either. I do not pretend to know the "dark arts" of the front row union boys, but I suspect that this issue will continue and scrums will continue to be a mess until they "emasculate" them as they have already done in League.

Then you comment on Lancasters habit of reverting to 10 man rugby. I agree, he does seem to struggle past 10 and he plays to his forward strengths and as a result, the game is often a turgid turd of a thing......but if come November this year he's managed to get his team to the RWC Final, nobody will really give a toss. Would you give a flying one if England RL played boring one up footie but actually won something?

Lastly, Dylan Hartley plays Hooker in Union which means he's not there to play footie, but to ad weight to the pack in the loose whilst also being able to throw to his jumpers and hook the ball if required. If you're asking "was he any good" in relation to his match v Wales...he gave away a penalty in the 47th minute and was subbed 9 minutes later...if you were asking because you wanted to know did he bite, punch or gouge anyones eye, the answer is no, he behaved himself. He is a 60+ test veteran player, so whilst I don't watch much union I'd say he's a pretty effective unit given Lancasters preoccupation with his numbers 1 to 8.

So, there you have it my amateur psychiatrist......a response to your original post. The BBC pay what they believe it's worth, the scrums are a fiasco and Hartley played 56 minutes in his 61st test!

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:26 pm  

duke street 10 wrote:

I think it down to this. R.U is poorer on the pitch but is packaged as an event....a part of a full day of socialising.

R.L is a better specticle on the pitch but isn't marketed very well and desperately needs international success to broaden its appeal.

There i have had my two bob's worth....carry on!

I agree to some extent in what you say but if you watch the game it spoils a good day out on the lash.

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:35 pm  

Sat here laughing at all the 6N teams effectively playing RL today, no doubt these games will be deemed the greatest entertainment in world sport or something

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:39 pm  

It's been a farce.

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:51 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

Sat here laughing at all the 6N teams effectively playing RL today, no doubt these games will be deemed the greatest entertainment in world sport or something

Imitation is the best form of flattery! Got to give them credit where it's due though the atmosphere has been superb, I dream of the day England RL can sell out 80k venues.

Re: Rugby Union, If you must talk about it, do it here. PART : Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:32 am  

100% Wire wrote:

Sat here laughing at all the 6N teams effectively playing RL today, no doubt these games will be deemed the greatest entertainment in world sport or something

The scorelines was like something out of the super 14's (or whatever they call it) in the southern hemisphere. Guarantee it will be back to a penalty kicking comp next year!