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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 11:33 am  
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Now Everton are a long ball team. Anybody who thinks that clearly doesn't watch Everton.

Even Stevie GBH retracted those comments because he looked like a fool.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 11:43 am  
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Really..... Swapping the likes of Alan Smith, Leon Best, Wayne Routledge and Joey Barton for Cabaye, Cisse, Santon and Gouffran. Didn't he get manager of the year last season also ???

Since the end of the 2011/12 season, he's spent an appreciable amount of money on a lot of players and looks totally incapable of working out what he's supposed to do with them. The players look as bewildered as anyone watching on. His selections - a hideously out-of-form Tioté over Vurnon Anita, for instance - similarly lack clarity and can anyone really suggest Newcastle are in better shape than twelve months ago?
The more you look at it, the more 2011/12 looks like a blip in an otherwise mediocre managerial career. There are some excellent players at Newcastle. All that's lacking is someone with an idea of how best to deploy them.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 12:44 pm  
I wonder what the powers-that-be at Stoke perceive what their level is in the PL? It wreaks of Charlton fans, and board for that matter thinking they had outgrown their manager's ability, when the reality was, it was that same manager elevating them to a false high.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 1:02 pm  
I was surprised to read that it was Pulis getting sacked, rather than it being Pulis leaving because he'd got something else lined up.

Pulis and Moyes really do have very similar records. Staggering that one of them is heading to Old Trafford in one of the best jobs in the world and the other one is getting fired by Stoke.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 2:05 pm  
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I was surprised to read that it was Pulis getting sacked, rather than it being Pulis leaving because he'd got something else lined up.

Pulis and Moyes really do have very similar records. Staggering that one of them is heading to Old Trafford in one of the best jobs in the world and the other one is getting fired by Stoke.


Moyes' record as a manager Pld 752 Win 44%
Pulis' record as a manager Pld 894 Win 36%

Moyes has won 3 manager of the years
Pulis has won 0
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 2:29 pm  
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Moyes' record as a manager Pld 752 Win 44%
Pulis' record as a manager Pld 894 Win 36%

Moyes has won 3 manager of the years
Pulis has won 0


They both managed to keep their clubs from getting relegated. They both managed to get to the FA Cup final and lose.

Moyes gets 3 LMA Manager of the Year awards. Ferguson got 4. Steve Coppell's got 2! Jose Mourinho has none. Those awards are nonsense. There's no wonder at the shoddy work of British managers when you look at the LMA.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 3:38 pm  
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I wonder what the powers-that-be at Stoke perceive what their level is in the PL? It wreaks of Charlton fans, and board for that matter thinking they had outgrown their manager's ability, when the reality was, it was that same manager elevating them to a false high.


Pulis had the third highest net spend in the EPL over the past five years (£75m). Only City and Chelsea were higher (£25m more than Liverpool and £13m more than Manchester United). That's the reason he's gone.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 4:12 pm  
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I wonder what the powers-that-be at Stoke perceive what their level is in the PL? It wreaks of Charlton fans, and board for that matter thinking they had outgrown their manager's ability, when the reality was, it was that same manager elevating them to a false high.

Pulis has established them in the Premier League, but were beginning to slide down. 2012/13 has been their lowest points total since promotion and they spent a load of cash - running not to stand still, but to start to go backwards. Time for a change and maybe look to kick on to regular top-half finishes and Cup runs as the next step of their development.

That and, let's face it; Pulis's style is pretty one-dimensional. I always think that playing that way, you get little shrift when it starts to go wrong. Play nice stuff and you build more credit which comes in handy when things aren't quite working (Martinez, for instance).
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed May 22, 2013 5:52 pm  
Stoke will only look good if they have a target already lined up and they know where they want to go. If they end up appointing somebody random and just hope things work out, they'll be in for a shock. Swansea, for example, clearly had a vision of where the club was going and what type of manager they needed. They identified him, brought him in and the stability continued and resulted in success.

I can't stand Pulis, I think he's an idiot that abuses the most simplistic of tactics. They worked, whatever, but he'll struggle to sell those tactics to a future employer unless it's Everton.

With regards to Moyes' record, I doubt it would be so strong if he had to bring them up from the Championship, I think it's a pretty fair comparison although Moyes spends his money better.
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