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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:38 pm  
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Quick work :lol:


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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:38 pm  
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You've an affinity towards special people. :wink:


:lol: Just spotted this.....you know you love the twins Keith!
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:43 pm  
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One year and one day since we ruined the biggest Mancunian Derby game. Bet no United supporter will forget that. Must be gutting.


I think most United fans were pretty content how the season panned out.
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:44 pm  
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Where do you get this myth that he can't pass?

He isn't a better passer than Alonso, but who is? His passing is short and efficient; also, he isn't the most creative, but I do remember him setting up a goal for Yossi Benayoun only a couple of weeks ago against Wigan, but I guess he cannot create anything :roll:

You know, last year Mascherano averaged 53 passes a game, I can't remember how many were successful, but he averaged the highest amount of passes per game for us, now, do you honestly think that a side containing players like Gerrard and Alonso would persistently give it to a player who cannot pass? He doesn't spray 50 yard balls around the field like Alonso, or persistently play slide rule balls like Gerrard, but he can pass and he's very efficient when doing so.


Number of successful passes is the most irrelevant stat in football. Gelson Fernandes makes about 80 passes in a game. Doesn't make him any good .

An 'efficient passer'? Fella, I could pass to Mascherano's standard was when I was in my early teens.

If the ball fell to him in mifield with 10 seconds left would you honestly think he could set someone up or score himself? Can you think of a starting XI player at Liverpool that you would least want to have the football in that situation?
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:48 pm  
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I'm sure that winning the league and CL will make up for it. Just a bit mind. Obviously winning the Manc derby is far more important than trivial things like titles and European Cups.

And I know you'll try and make out that it was super-duper special because it was also a Munich memorial, but any United fan will take the defeat as completely unimportant when placed in context of a tragedy like that.


It is a Cup Final for one club.
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:48 pm  
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It obviously hurt you a great deal, scouse


Salford and Manchester City...how does that work out? Two teams from different cities...just wondering like? :wink:
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:01 pm  
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RE your pronounciation of the name of the club I support: Do you understand the irony?


Aye, he completely forgot its spelt with a Sh and not C at the start.
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:12 pm  
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Number of successful passes is the most irrelevant stat in football. Gelson Fernandes makes about 80 passes in a game. Doesn't make him any good .

An 'efficient passer'? Fella, I could pass to Mascherano's standard was when I was in my early teens.

If the ball fell to him in mifield with 10 seconds left would you honestly think he could set someone up or score himself? Can you think of a starting XI player at Liverpool that you would least want to have the football in that situation?


What has him having the ball in the last 10 seconds got to do with anything?

There are plenty of players I'd rather it fall to Masch than, such as Carragher, Kuyt, Dossena or Arbeloa. I don't get what this is meant to be, if it's the last 10 seconds, you'd be walloping it in the box, not passing it to your holding midfielder expecting him to set up a goal or score.

An efficient passer means he keeps possession, he isn't a creator, or a goalscorer, but he keeps things ticking and keeps possession well, you make it out as though he has no talent whatsoever, there's no point even debating with you, because somebody isn't a fantastic passer means they aren't a footballer, according to you :roll:
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:19 pm  
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1. If you don't run to the by-line and cross the ball, does that mean you are not a winger?
2. Where did I say that Robbie's natural position is as a 'winger'? I would be grateful if you could provide this. If not, will you please acknowledge this in your next post?
3. How often has he played in the following positions for City: left of a front three; left-wing; and as one of the front two?
4. Mascherano cannot pass or create anything. Does that mean he isn't a 'midfielder'?

What is 'FM09'? Sounds a bit scrotey to me.

BTW how many times have you watched Robbie this season? Not as often as I have.

Robihno has played as a trequartista, off the shoulder of the centre-half, left-wing and on the left of a front three.

Factually incorrect. He provides creativity out-wide too. Robihno has scored several times coming from the left and has produced assists from that position too.

Hang on.....have you actually seen him play? IMO he is best playing a free-role as part of a forward pairing.

:lol: Thanks for the sig


You see, apart from quoting me in your sig', your also looking back over my posts, and using what I've said to base your opinion of 'Robbie' (Are you Mark Hughes ??) on. I tell you that he plays best in a free role, d'nar ! A page or two later Enfield Exile uses the exact same phrase to 'Tell Me' where Robbie plays best. I guess I should take that as a compliment, especially as your a football guru who watches Robbie every week.

In simple terms for you, I've watched alot of Robinho, lots of him at Real too as I was interested in him since he was billed as something special when at Santos. (I know for you, Robinho has only existed since August 31st 2008 - But he did play before that, honestly). I've watched with interest where each & every manager has played him, as I've never been quite sure what he is, as you rightly say, is he left of a three ? Free Role ? A frontman ? A winger ? I think what he is, is a luxury. Somebody who if you have a side who can afford to have a bloke who'll find himself in pockets of space, play in behind either a frontman or two but will roam left, right & off the front, then he will influence the game. If you ask him to provide you with genuine width he offers you nothing, Ribery & Young do this role much, much better.

In a conversation about World Class wingers, you dismissed suggestions from another poster, who put forward Robben, Ronaldo, Ribery etc, and you dismissed them out of hand that they weren't a patch on 'Robbie' as you & Mark Hughes like to call him, you then in your post put something along the lines of "But he's at his best as a forward", which he is. But to dismiss the options like Ribery & Robben, you obviously feel he's the best winger in the world, as people have given you the candidates, and you've just dismissed them, ridiculously, out of hand, especially when everybody can see your being really, really daft.

Nobody is having a pop at 'Robbie', not me anyhow, I think he has ability, but he isn't a winger. Any of the initial names given to you, do a better job of that role than him, and Ashley Young does too.

I await your next response, calling me out like a wrestler. That's me done anyhow. I've got my opinions on Robinho, and thankfully folk on here seem to be on a similar trail of thought. Football is all about opinions, it's just difficult when you get folk who see things one eyed.
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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:39 pm  
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Salford and Manchester City...how does that work out? Two teams from different cities...just wondering like? :wink:


You have caught me out. I am a glory hunter.

But you are betraying your scouse routes
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