Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:52 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Jens Lehmann take a bow son.

Quality. Whilst a lot of it is truthful, what have City done to upset him so much?

Yes, the 67 goals we have scored this season have been lucky.

I guess you are as clueless as he is. If anyone plays more attractive football in the Prem than City, then I have yet to watch them.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:00 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

IMO, Reina isn't weak at anything and is exceptional at most things. This is why players like Shay Given and Joe Hart are overrated IMO, they don't do everything well, Given especially has to be the most overrated goalkeeper ever. He is to pundits what Zeus was to the ancient Greeks. Madness.

Oooh goody. It’s the weekly “Hart is rubbish, but Reina is the bestest ever” post by Roddy.

No-one states that Joe Hart is perfect. But for you to come out and say Reina has no weaknesses after his foul-up at Fulham is, quite frankly, very amusing.

If Joe Hart isn’t that good, name a better keeper (same age or younger) that has played in the Prem.

Not surprising you hold the views you do as you think our team is full of average players. :’Average’ is obviously a level above Suarez.

You used to be a decent, knowledgeable poster but now you come across as a bitter know-nowt. Shame.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:26 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Oooh goody. It’s the weekly “Hart is rubbish, but Reina is the bestest ever” post by Roddy.

No-one states that Joe Hart is perfect. But for you to come out and say Reina has no weaknesses after his foul-up at Fulham is, quite frankly, very amusing.

If Joe Hart isn’t that good, name a better keeper (same age or younger) that has played in the Prem.

Not surprising you hold the views you do as you think our team is full of average players. :’Average’ is obviously a level above Suarez.

You used to be a decent, knowledgeable poster but now you come across as a bitter know-nowt. Shame.

Never once said Citeh's team is full of average players. Kompany's the second best defender in the league, Aguero arguably the best striker, Silva's arguably the best player - and I said as soon as you signed him that in a year or so he'd be the best in the league. Toure is up there with the league's best midfielders and I've always said Balotelli is a top player. You easily have the best squad in the league, but that doesn't mean every player is great.

I struggle to understand what you mean about better than Hart, same age or younger? Do you mean at present or in the past? Reina was better than Hart at 23, Reina came to England a better 'keeper than Hart currently is. De Gea is better than what Hart was at 19, Szczesny at his current age is better than what Hart was at that age. Petr Cech arrived in England a much better goalkeeper than Hart currently is, but we've all seen what's happened to him since that injury. Up until a couple of months ago, you could have made a good claim that Asmir Begovic was around on par with Joe Hart, but his form has really dropped of late. Hart's a good young 'keeper and he's certainly a good shot stopper, but he does need a few more years to be considered amongst the world's best.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:04 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

If anyone plays more attractive football in the Prem than City, then I have yet to watch them.

Not exactly a huge achievement, considering, IMO, that 99% of the football played in the prem is unattractive stuff from the likes of Latics, Bolton and Blackburn. Most teams in Spain play more attractive football, as well as teams in South America.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:35 pm  

The real reason Merieles came to England:

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:41 pm  

Young Warrior wrote:

Not exactly a huge achievement, considering, IMO, that 99% of the football played in the prem is unattractive stuff from the likes of Latics, Bolton and Blackburn. Most teams in Spain play more attractive football, as well as teams in South America.

But hang on a minute, watch Barcelona or your South Americans play, all they do is exactly the same thing that Jens Lehmann is so adamant that is boring football. Push the ball about and bore the opposition to death. Possession football. All they do is average between 3 and 4 goals a game as the ball fortunately ricohets into the net. That's no good is it. No what you want to do is pass the ball about in exactly the same kind of way then keep on passing it round the opponents box until you get tackled rather than taking a shot.

Lehmann just came across as very bitter and for one reason only, we are the club that stole four of Arsenal's main players over the last couple of years.

Most of Germany's football fans have always hated Jens Lehmann and it's easy to see why. I don't mind criticism aimed at us but that was just total rubbish - although he was right about the fans being deathly quiet.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:28 pm  

I think you're oversimplifying Barca's style of play. Yes, they do pass it about a lot, but they are far more inventive than any side in world football when they get in the final third. One-twos, flicks, overlaps, dummies and exceptional close quarters dribbling makes their general offensive play much more attractive than anything served up these days. But that's my opinion, and what people find entertaining is a matter of opinion.

As for City, I don't think they're boring to watch. They were for much of last season, but when Mancini lets Toure 'off his leash' and Silva's getting space on the ball, they're pretty fun to watch, especially if Aguero, Balotelli and/or Nasri are in there as well. I don't think City are massively entertaining, but that's largely because their side lacks identity due to the rapid nature in which it was created. People seem to think that Mancini has allowed his side to be more 'adventurous', which is up to them, I can only imagine if he has, he'll allow them to be more adventurous with more time. Saying that, he spent a few years flat track bullying in Italy and his team were dull at best.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:37 pm  

D.D. wrote:

Lehmann just came across as very bitter and for one reason only, we are the club that stole four of Arsenal's main players over the last couple of years.

I think that's part of it, but not the only reason.

He's ex-Arsenal. Arsenal have spent the last six years crying about how unfair it was that Chelsea has Roman's money, and how doing in their way was the only right way to do things.

He's also German. Franz Beckenbauer at Bayern has spent nearly as long whining about Chelsea as Wenger has. The German league is built upon community and some measures towards parity while the PL stick 2 fingers up to that with Roman and the Sheik's cash.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:44 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Yes, the 67 goals we have scored this season have been lucky.

I guess you are as clueless as he is. If anyone plays more attractive football in the Prem than City, then I have yet to watch them.

Means nothing though, fantasy football and no achievement whatsoever however many trophies you buy.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:49 pm  

Roofs wrote:

Means nothing though, fantasy football and no achievement whatsoever however many trophies you buy.

Why do you bother posting?....

Same old repeated tosh.....I actually have some sympathy with the premise of your argument, but your constant, childish re-hash of this opposition to city's wealth is very, very tiresome.