Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:53 am  

John_D wrote:

Hull City Tigers...

The massive success of all the RL clubs changing their names must have been persuasive.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:39 pm  

Moyes had made a bid for the man from Del Monte.






He said no.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:57 am  

John_D wrote:

Hull City Tigers...

Absolute nonsense from a man who is looking less and less like he has either the first clue or a care about the sport and it's fans.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:15 pm  

Can't believe the stubborness of Liverpool and tottenham.

If a top player wants to leave, and theres interested clubs, that's it. You've lost the battle.

Cash in, and give yourselves time to buy replacements. Instead, they'll drag it out and drag it out, the inevitable will happen and they'll be left high and dry with no time to get replacments.

No good will come of this dogged refusal to sell. If a top player wants to leave, it will happen one way or another that is the way of the modern game.

If liverpool wanted to keep suarez they should have got CL football. Ditto Tottenham.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:40 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Can't believe the stubborness of Liverpool and tottenham.

If a top player wants to leave, and theres interested clubs, that's it. You've lost the battle.

Cash in, and give yourselves time to buy replacements. Instead, they'll drag it out and drag it out, the inevitable will happen and they'll be left high and dry with no time to get replacments.

No good will come of this dogged refusal to sell. If a top player wants to leave, it will happen one way or another that is the way of the modern game.

If liverpool wanted to keep suarez they should have got CL football. Ditto Tottenham.

Why haven't you included Rooney in with this stupid post?

The truth is that if Arsenal, Real and Chelsea want Suarez, Bale and Rooney then they need to make higher bids.

IMO Arsenal aren't serious enough about Suarez, they're bluffing their foolish fans. Real want Bale, but have they actually tabled a genuine bid, or is it all pretend bids made in the Spanish press?

I don't think Man United will let Rooney go to Chelsea unless Chelsea are forced to pay a stupid amount of money for him.

I think there's a good chance all three players will be staying with their present clubs. But the notion that Liverpool and Tottenham should just cave in and let their players leave is just ridiculous. Losing Bale and Suarez will massively damage their chances in the league this season and they are right to get as much money as they possibly can.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:11 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Why haven't you included Rooney in with this stupid post?

Why do you think? Work it out if you're so clever, nonce.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:52 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Why do you think? Work it out if you're so clever, nonce.

I'd say the most likely reason is because you're a Man United and it's simply too much for your tiny brain to accept a player wants to leave you.

If you're not a Man United fan, and haven't included Rooney because his team won the league and therefore qualified for the CL, then you'd have realised the weakness of your argument that qualifying for the CL would mean players didn't want to leave.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:53 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Why do you think? Work it out if you're so clever, nonce.

Is it because he's not a top player?

I think Liverpool are right to dig their heels in, like anything in life, if you're selling it, you have the right to get as much money as possible for it.

Suarez may be unhappy, but Liverpool appear to be losing out whatever the outcome here. They sell him to Arsenal, they've strengthened a hopeful rival and weakened themselves, there's no time/players left to sign and replace Suarez and they're left with an even weaker squad. They keep him and he's unhappy and there's potential for discontent across the club, including the fans. At the end of the day, I'd rather keep him unhappy and have a very minor chance at challenging for fourth, rather than let him go and end all chances.

BTW, anybody thinking we'll challenge for fourth with that defence and midfield need to have a serious rethink. It's probably the weakest defence we've had since the 90s. Daniel Agger's become the vice captain as well, clearly not based on his performances as he was average last year.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:48 am  

At the moment the clubs seem to be dealing with reluctant players by keeping them but not playing them. They can only do that for so long, once the season starts, or risk losing them on free transfers.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:42 am  

Cibaman wrote:

At the moment the clubs seem to be dealing with reluctant players by keeping them but not playing them. They can only do that for so long, once the season starts, or risk losing them on free transfers.

At the moment the reluctant players aren't playing because they're "injured".

It's not from the clubs side that the players aren't being played, it is the players who are faking injuries to try and force their moves.

But the games ATM are meaningless anyway. From next week Rooney and Bale will start being picked again. It will be interesting to see if the players are prepared to sit out league games to force their moves.

But I don't think it is in any of the "selling" clubs interest to have any of the players sitting in the stands during a league campaign. If they manage to hold on to the players, they don't want them missing games, they want their players to get over their disappointment on missing out on moves and getting back to playing at their peak.

There's no way on earth Liverpool, Spurs and Man Utd can pull a Malouda with players like Suarez, Bale and Rooney. Only Man Utd could possibly do it because Rooney isn't as essential to them, but they aren't going to want to be paying him 200k a week to spite him. They just don't want him doing an RVP at Chelsea.