Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:40 am  

flipper wrote:

McClennan wrote:

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Cibaman wrote:

Therefore, I believe there is evidence to say that if he has used the term repeatedly there was intent. If there's intent then it's down to him to say what the intent was. In the best case scenario he can say he was looking to wind Evra up to give him some sort of competitive edge. With that response you can decide whether to believe him or not. He has used a word that can be a racial insult (there should be zero discussion over that really) so it comes down to why you think he said it. To wind up Evra or to provoke a player who the Liverpool club know is sensitive on issues related to race?

Now if Liverpool are going to question the integrity of Patrice Evra in an attempt to undermine his position that may be an opportunity to get him off the charges. However, to believe Suarez's word over Evra's is not that easy for me given that he has shown a propensity to influence matches by going beyond good sporting play which is something that I've rarely ever thought of Evra.

you suggesting it was done with the club or kkken's say so there Mc?

LOL not really but it's an interesting point that nobody has really mentioned or discussed. What does it say? That Evra is prone to exaggeration? Evra wants to drag Liverpool's name into the mud? To do it twice certainly starts to suggest a pattern of behaviour doesn't it? Knowing that Evra is sensitive to issues of race may not have manifested itself in the pre-match chat, however it's quite possible that Evra may be pinpointed as an individual who is prone to losing his concentration via wind ups. It doesn't need to have been explicit. It's all speculation anyway that but worth contemplating because it does hint at some form negligence on behalf of Liverpool, the club, in the issue of educating Suarez about racism in football in the UK. Have Liverpool failed him more than he's let Liverpool down? What do you think?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:20 pm  

Dan_FC wrote:

Really? I've no doubt he has ability but he's not settled particularly well. Would you be happy with his return? 2 goals and many below standard performances.

He's a good player. He did well in Holland bar one bad season. I've always rated him. He hasn't been as bad as you say, he's done okay, he's come into a poor team and has looked one of their standout players everytime I've watched Fulham, along with Dembele. He's a better option than Downing.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:21 pm  

Mark wrote:

Great goal by Grant Holt, it won't get the credit it deserves though. If it was Bergkamp, we'd never hear the end of it.

I think you mean Pele, sorry Rooney.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:43 pm  

I have never wanted Blackburn to lose a game but if they lose on tuesday to Bolton Kean will surely be sacked.Even the clueless Venkys can't keep him in a job if we lose another home game to a team around us in the league.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:28 pm  

Happy days, City on 41 points, safe from relegation before Christmas.

Terrific game today.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:07 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Happy days, City on 41 points, safe from relegation before Christmas.

Terrific game today.

Oh but I thought the wheels had fallen off?

City now played Utd, Chelsea, Spurs and Pool away. A very tough period and stll 2 points clear.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:11 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Happy days, City on 41 points, safe from relegation before Christmas.

Terrific game today.

Really enjoyed the City game, especially after the non-events of the first 2 games of the day.

City need to be careful though, defence has begun to look a little suspect recently, I'd maybe be looking to strengthen in January with a new centre half to partner Kompany.

Saying that, United with Evans at the back are an accident waiting to happen.....I can't believe that an unexpected defeat or two won't hit them in the new year if they have to continue with him in the back four.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:14 pm  

Could this possibly be true? I can't believe it myself.... http://forum.planetswans.co.uk/viewtopi ... 6&t=112054

Could this possibly be true? I can't believe it myself.... http://forum.planetswans.co.uk/viewtopi ... 6&t=112054

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:35 pm  

Cannot recall a team as strong as Man City being doubted as much. Record speaks for itself. Not killing off games must be a concern though. Best Premier League match of the season by a fair bit.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:54 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Cannot recall a team as strong as Man City being doubted as much. Record speaks for itself.

The fact that they are so strong, and yet still managed to get knocked out of the Champions League at the group stages, suggests that there is a good reason for the doubts.

I think both us and United have been doubted a great deal over the past few years, and we've both gone on to take the title, we've both been finalists of the CL and United have gone on to win it as well. So it's not as though doubts haven't been voiced about other strong sides.