: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:40 pm  

beax wrote:

he's a record breaker, undefeated, greatest Super Middle in history by a mile, pretty much there really. Will be rated with Monzon, Hagler, et al

Maybe in your eyes but certainly not mine.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:42 pm  

It looks like Calzaghe v Jones is on already,after that who else is there for him to fight?I mentioned the judges and Cortez before and i was right for a change.I'd love Micky Vann to ref in Cardiff,for some daft reason he has to retire this year.Instead of Cortez with his blinkers image Vann saying 'Dont give me any f******* s***'!!

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:50 pm  

St_Maca wrote:

Its got Points decision for Calzaghe written all over it this fight. 5/6 pretty decent odds imo.

Correct.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:56 pm  

Rupert Pupkin wrote:

Maybe in your eyes but certainly not mine.

Which bit?? speaks for itself

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:08 pm  

beax wrote:

Which bit?? speaks for itself

He is not in the same league as some of the real greats, just because he is unbeaten and been champion for such a long period, doesn't to me say he is a great(I know that sounds a bit daft). To me he has always faced people at the right times e.g Eubank(was past his best), never really taken anybody on during their peak. Dodged alot of good fighters unlike Clinton Woods who has been in with some of the best around. Now it looks like he could be fighting Roy Jones, how many years to later? Jones would have murdered him in his peak! He did a good number Lacy and beat a poor champion in Kessler in recent times and has now beaten a 43 year old man. Just my opinion.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:15 pm  

He was avoided man... he's awkward and dangerous and wasnt easy to market in the US so Jones et al avoided him like the plague.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:19 pm  

beax wrote:

He was avoided man... he's awkward and dangerous and wasnt easy to market in the US so Jones et al avoided him like the plague.

I dont agree with that, do you honestly think Calzaghe could have beaten Jones at his peak?

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:23 pm  

No... but thats not the point.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:58 pm  

beax wrote:

Nah... just listen to the way the yanks spoke about him... they know... now he's P4P equal with PBF...

Not a chance. PBF is a far superior boxer to Calzagie in every respect possible.

beax wrote:

shame he didnt go to the states earlier but he's a record breaker, undefeated, greatest Super Middle in history by a mile

The Super Middle weight limit is 15/16 years old so to use the word "history" is misguided.

beax wrote:

pretty much there really. Will be rated with Monzon, Hagler, et al

What planet are you on? Calzagie is not fit to wipe Hagler's @rse. If both fighters were at their peak, Hagler would have eaten him...

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:02 pm  

Great win for Joe, really please he kept his unbeaten record going.

Thought Hopkins landed some clean shots but was outworked by JC. although I thought he won it by 2 rounds and some of the judges scores were a bit strange.

Have to agree with what has been said about the ref. he was shocking!