: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:47 pm  

JWP wrote:

More clubs would come in for Young or Ribery if they wanted a left winger. Big clubs too. I think Milan were believed to want Ribery, Bayern slapped a £40m price tag on him.

Did I say 'big' clubs wouldn't sign Ribery? Please provide proof

We were after Ribery too. We can afford. I don't think any other English club can

More clubs would come in for Robinho if they wanted a frontman, or an off the front player.

More top clubs would come in for Robihno if they needed a left-winger even though that is not his best position

Robinho is a frontman, who can play left wing or as the left of a three as he has done at Man City but isn't as effective hence why City are in the bottom half of the table.

Something else you have got wrong. 7th if we win on Saturday.

Robihno ineffective? Name a player from your club who has been more effective this season.


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: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:47 pm  

Just looking at FIFPRO and amazing that Robinho has never been near any of the teams or awards, a certain Mr Rooney has won one...

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:53 pm  

Anybody on here ever read those Actim Index things? Not sure how they figure them out, but just looking at the top 100 in the Prem now... http://www.premierleague.com/page/Actim ... 06,00.html I'd love to know what stats have got Dirk Kuyt higher than Ashley Young and Robinho

Anybody on here ever read those Actim Index things? Not sure how they figure them out, but just looking at the top 100 in the Prem now... http://www.premierleague.com/page/Actim ... 06,00.html I'd love to know what stats have got Dirk Kuyt higher than Ashley Young and Robinho

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:54 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Incorrect

Your right, I missed the mighty Algeria off the list of countries Robinho has failed to impress against.

Enfield Exile wrote:

Best player in the Copa America

Worthless. Come back when he's got one of either the Ballon D'or, FIFPro World Player of the Year and Fifa World Player of the Year trophy.

Enfield Exile wrote:

So to sum up your post: Anyone not as good as Ronaldo is !"$*? That would surely mean Rooney (most overrated talent in world football and no top European clubs have ever shown an interest in him), Berbatov, Frazier Campbell ( ), Manucho ( ) and Wellbeck (:lol: ) are all !"$*

The same Rooney who United paid millions for? Surely you're not suggesting that we are not a "top European club" considering at the time we signed him we had already won the European Cup twice and since (with Rooney in the team) have won it further once.

PS - how many top European clubs were after "Robbie"? Non, that's why he ended up at your gaff.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:54 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Did I say 'big' clubs wouldn't sign Ribery? Please provide proof

We were after Ribery too. We can afford. I don't think any other English club can

More top clubs would come in for Robihno if they needed a left-winger even though that is not his best position

Something else you have got wrong. 7th if we win on Saturday.

Robihno ineffective? Name a player from your club who has been more effective this season.

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Nicolas Anelka.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:57 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Did I say 'big' clubs wouldn't sign Ribery? Please provide proof

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I was replying to Robbie Rotten, it works that way, if I quote his post I'm replying to him, I quote yours that means you.

So, I think that means that I don't have to supply evidence this time, phew.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:58 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

He was quality last year, second in the assists table behind only Fabregas IIRC.

Where's the link to this 'assist' table?

Hang on, did Real officially declare an interest in him? Or is this paper talk?

If you asked an Italian who Ashley Ypong was, they would shrug their shoulders. He is a good player in a team who are having luck by the spade. Let's see what happens over the longer-term.

I'm sure people's views of Young are not tainited by the Ingurlund is bestest attitude. You know who they are. These are the people who think Terry is the best centre half since the last decent centre half to come out of England. Or Rooney, the best striker since Michael Owen. And Ashley Cole the best full-back in the world....ever.

What do you mean, he doesn't have enough tricks? Young regularly beats his man and delivers consistently good service, not only is his crossing good, but his passing has improved vastly, MON has played him in the hole several times this season and last season.

He doesn't have enough tricks. He will do nothing against decent European teams or at international level until his skill level and technique improves. If he doesn't have those abilities now, I doubt that he will ever develop them. Shame.

He has no tricks. Top class wingers have several tricks. Young is limited.

I'd say Robinho is probably better now, and a more established player, but as Young starts to break into the England squad, and maybe even gets CL football under his belt next season, I don't see any reason why he can't surpass Robinho.

More experience? Robbie is only about a year or two older and has only been in teh contry for 5 months!

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:00 pm  

JWP wrote:

Nicolas Anelka.

I don't know what the games:goals is but Robbie is more than 1 in 2.

How many assists does Anelka have?

How many winning goals has he scored?

You're a Cheslea fan?

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:06 pm  

Sheddy wrote:

Your right, I missed the mighty Algeria off the list of countries Robinho has failed to impress against.

Maybe he saves himself for the big games.....unlike Ronaldo

Worthless. Come back when he's got one of either the Ballon D'or, FIFPro World Player of the Year and Fifa World Player of the Year trophy.

Sun JiHai, if I remember correctly won China player of the year. More people in China than Europe.

Out of interest, how many times has a player from the biggest team in the world won this award, despite the billions they have spent over the years?

The same Rooney who United paid millions for? Surely you're not suggesting that we are not a "top European club" considering at the time we signed him we had already won the European Cup twice and since (with Rooney in the team) have won it further once.

I should have made myself clearer. I meant after he has joined United. Top players attract the interest of the top clubs. No top team have shown an interest in him. I had high hopes of him but he has disappointed.

PS - how many top European clubs were after "Robbie"? Non, that's why he ended up at your gaff.

Chelsea....Oh hang on. None Just the richest club in the world

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:07 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

I don't know what the games:goals is but Robbie is more than 1 in 2.

How many assists does Anelka have?

How many winning goals has he scored?

You're a Cheslea fan?

No, a football fan who loosely pledges his allegiance to Chelsea. I wouldn't class myself as a 'Fan'.

I'm not sure how many assists, but on that thing above about three posts up, he's rated as the biggest contributor in the Premiership. Obviously, it must be weighted towards goals, but your fella, "Robbie", is top five in the Goalscoring charts but way down in the ratings like.