Re: Betting Chat : Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:28 pm  

Realistically can only give three of them in the Betfair Chase a chance, Long Run, Diamond Harry and Weird Al.
Long Run obviously needs no introduction but may be vulnerable first time up, as he was last year when finishing a labouring 3rd in the Paddy Power, however certainly did improve enough last year to suggest this is his to lose.
Diamond Harry has a fine record fresh and always runs well at this time of year, although is probably flattered by winning the Hennessy last year as he carried the bare minimum.
Weird Al is an interesting improver for the McCain yard, change of scenery may have reinvigorated him following the switch from the Williams set up. Timmy Murphy gets along well with him and won the Charlie Hall in good fashion, so obviously has the bonus of fitness.

Gonna rule out Kauto Star, Time For Rupert and Pure Faith.
Kauto has won once in his last 5 runs/18 or so months - fell in the 2010 Gold Cup after never really travelling at his best, won a poor G1 at Down Royal next time up with Sizing Europe second (who evidently doesn't truly stay that far), well beaten by LR and Riverside Theatre in the King George, did nothing wrong in the 2011 Gold Cup but was, again, well beaten, then disappointed at Punchestown against a largely moderate bunch as he was pulled up after never getting into it.
Paul Webber has stated he doesn't think Haydock is a challenging enough track for TFR to show his best form. I imagine he just wants to get graded experience into him against experienced chasers, while he continues his fencing experience, with the festival being the ultimate target.
Pure Faith shouldn't trouble these sort of horses and will probably be looking to complete in the hope that there are a few fallers/pulled up to leave him to collect a few quid.

Long Run to win, followed home by Weird Al, Diamond Harry, Kauto Star, Time For Rupert, Pure Faith.



Didn't bother doubling that one at Thurles with anything, no bets in the end. Good job as the Mullins 2nd favourite beat it. Slightly odd as the favourite had a lofty reputation as being one of Meade's brightest prospects.

Re: Betting Chat : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:59 pm  

Tbh, Time For Rupert was the 1st horse I scrubbed out, the form of last season's RSA, is not worth a carrot atm. Which does'nt bode too well for this season's 3m chasers. Too many in decline, and seemingly, nothing coming through. Long Run looks to have both the Betfair and KG at his mercy.

Anyone got any news on Planet of Sound?

Re: Betting Chat : Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:54 am  

2:45 Ascot - Mr Crystal @ 10/1 EW

Looks likes its brought back to fitness over flat after problems before having its 3rd chasing race in a Class 1 handicap when coming 4th from out of the handicap, left with plenty to do that day held up and jockey never got serious on it until after the last where it was just short of get 3rd and 2nd, now 2lbs lower then that day an could improve for that run.

Re: Betting Chat : Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:14 am  

2/1 Treble

1.00 Ascot - Simonsig
2.30 Haydock - Plenty Pocket - Place
3.05 Haydock - Super Duty

Done Plenty Pocket @ 11/4 as well.

Breathing op after poor debut, Henderson runner has great form but 11/4 is decent in what looks a two horse race plus getting 2lbs from Henderson's, Pocket won on the bit last time and could really be anything.

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:24 am  

Long Run and Oscars Well @ just under 5/1

Grandouet and Long Run double @ 3/1

Treble with Masterminded @ 9/1

Long Run by over 3 lengths @ 11/4

All its wins in UK have been by at least 7 lengths, every chance he's better this year plus this flat track suits him well.

12:50 Haydock - Any Given Day @ 12/1 EW

Ran well in tough races last season running to RPR of 159 finished coming 8th in the World Hurdle its been dropped 5lbs in handicap since then and with the 5lb claimer onboard it should have decent EW chance.

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:39 am  

GRANDOUET.12.15.hay
MASTER MINDED.2.10.asco
OSCAR WHISKY.2.45.asco treble pays 10/1

DARCEYS DANCER.3.20.ascot 16/1 e/w
SENESHAL.3.35.ling 5/1
MOSTLY BOB.3.40.hayd
KAUTO STAR took 8/1 earlier in the week

went to haydock yesterday with the o'meara clan, glad i went... gambled landed on chancery in the last!

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:59 am  

I looked at that thinking you might put it up

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:05 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

I looked at that thinking you might put it up

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sorry mate i didnt know till i got to the course and got the vibes from them...not ones to shout about a hot one im afraid

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:06 pm  

Did Grandouet in a single, with Master Minded and Long Run for a treble.

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:20 pm  

Win bet.... Oscar Whiskey....2.45 Ascot
Place lay....Master Minded....2.10 Ascot
Place lay....Kauto Star.........3.05 Haydock