Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:52 am  

flipper wrote: I am not familiar with the Dr, but I saw the episode in question, the outrage is fkin laughable - everything is so media driven, like the Brand / Ross / Sachs thing, only a handful of people who actually heard the show actually complained, once people had been told often enough by the media that they should be appalled and outraged they were. Madness Oliver Holt: http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/garth_ ... haracters/ Dr Lucien Sanchez http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/04/bl ... a-response

flipper wrote: I am not familiar with the Dr, but I saw the episode in question, the outrage is fkin laughable - everything is so media driven, like the Brand / Ross / Sachs thing, only a handful of people who actually heard the show actually complained, once people had been told often enough by the media that they should be appalled and outraged they were. Madness Oliver Holt: http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/garth_ ... haracters/ Dr Lucien Sanchez http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/04/bl ... a-response

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:26 am  

Darkheart wrote:

I totally agree, get it signed. I;m guessing alot of the premiership want him to sign it as well.

The form book since Kenny took over has Liverpool in third I think. I don't think that's bad going at all, given the squad he inherited and a bit of misfortune on the injury front. Knocks over the theory that Liverpool are no better than they were with Hodgson in charge.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:36 pm  

Nigeria's Olubayo Adefemi dies in Greece car accident. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 461573.stm

Nigeria's Olubayo Adefemi dies in Greece car accident. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 461573.stm

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:56 pm  

Steve Claridge on the otherwise crap-anyway Football League Show. Gives rubbish footballing pundits such as Jamie Redknapp and Alan Shearer a bad name with his one eyed rubbish about Pompey and how Ricardo '4 red cards in 18 months' Rocha isn't a dirty player and didn't headbutt Boothroyd.

The man is a grade 1 pillock. Bring back Leroy!

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:17 pm  

richardviking wrote:

The form book since Kenny took over has Liverpool in third I think. I don't think that's bad going at all, given the squad he inherited and a bit of misfortune on the injury front. Knocks over the theory that Liverpool are no better than they were with Hodgson in charge.

Do you have access to the form table? It would make interesting reading.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:33 pm  

Darkheart wrote:

Do you have access to the form table? It would make interesting reading.

This is not the form table but a top six mini league I found, however it's still quite interesting ( or not)

.......................P....W....D...L...F......A. ...+/-...Pts
Liverpool...........9.....4....2....2...14...11... 3......14
United..............8.....4....2....2...10...8.... .2......14
Chelsea............8.....3....1....4....8....9....-1.....10
Arsenal.............8.....2....3....3...10...9.... .1......9
Spurs...............6.....2....3....1....6....6... ..0......9
City.................9.....2.....3....5...5....10. ..-5.....9

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:45 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

This is not the form table but a top six mini league I found, however it's still quite interesting ( or not)

.......................P....W....D...L...F......A. ...+/-...Pts
Liverpool...........9.....4....2....2...14...11... 3......14
United..............8.....4....2....2...10...8.... .2......14
Chelsea............8.....3....1....4....8....9....-1.....10
Arsenal.............8.....2....3....3...10...9.... .1......9
Spurs...............6.....2....3....1....6....6... ..0......9
City.................9.....2.....3....5...5....10. ..-5.....9

It show's who performs against the big boys. I think Liverpools downfall is against the teams towards the bottom. It seems Liverppol are missing a result.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:49 pm  

Darkheart wrote:

Do you have access to the form table? It would make interesting reading.

Not too sure on the actual 'form table, but the difference in our results look like this: Hodgson: P20 W7 D4 L9 Pts25 GD-3. Under Dalglish: P13 W7 D3 L3 Pts24 GD+10.

As I've said before, Kenny probably won't be the man to lead us to prolonged success, I'd love it if he was, but it's just a purely, dispassionate view I hold. However, I do feel he's the man that will lay down the foundations; he'll put everybody on the same wave length, he'll unite supporters, allow the new owners to settle in and do their work behind the scenes, and he'll bring on young players into the senior squad. I'm not just saying that because a few young lads have played due to recent injuries, I do generally believe he holds the youth players in high regard.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:06 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Not too sure on the actual 'form table, but the difference in our results look like this: Hodgson: P20 W7 D4 L9 Pts25 GD-3. Under Dalglish: P13 W7 D3 L3 Pts24 GD+10.

As I've said before, Kenny probably won't be the man to lead us to prolonged success, I'd love it if he was, but it's just a purely, dispassionate view I hold. However, I do feel he's the man that will lay down the foundations; he'll put everybody on the same wave length, he'll unite supporters, allow the new owners to settle in and do their work behind the scenes, and he'll bring on young players into the senior squad. I'm not just saying that because a few young lads have played due to recent injuries, I do generally believe he holds the youth players in high regard.

Is the youth policy that Benitez set the foundations for starting to pay off then? Are these young lads any good.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:37 pm  

Darkheart wrote:

Is the youth policy that Benitez set the foundations for starting to pay off then? Are these young lads any good.

I find those crediting Benitez for the youth policy already need to wake up. I've read into youth coaching and they generally measure things from the age of 12 and onwards, i.e. they will take a crop of 12 year olds and measure their progress up until the age of 18 or so. Benitez only took over the academy in 2009, he brought in some fantastic coaches, but the true fruits of their work won't be seen for a good 5-10 years. I'm sure you could throw some credit their way when you see players like Flanagan and Robinson in the team, but these players were at least 15 years old when Benitez took over the academy, not quite super raw, but well into their development and not at the start of the 'development cycle'.

Still, it's hard to tell how good young players are because it's unfair to measure them on current ability, especially when they're 17 or so. Flanagan has been solid since coming in, Robinson coped well yesterday and everybody seen how well Martin Kelly played when he came in. Spearing has been alright, but I feel his physical and technical limitations will never allow him to be a top drawer player. Still, Benitez deserves credit for appointing the right men to run the academy, but the majority of the credit should go to Pep Segura and co., as well as the players, obviously.