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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:56 pm  
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I've only just realised I put downing, when intending to put Lennon. I think Albrighton has a lot of potential, and no, there aren't many good players out wide for England. Or anywhere else for that matter. I don't rate Downing at all, I really don't see what he brings to the table.


He brings the best cross out of any of the pre mentioned wingers. I'd have Downing on the left and Ashley Young on the right personally.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:49 am  
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Was having a debate with friends earlier, how would you list the current English wingers? I'd say Johnson - Downing - Walcott - Young - Albrighton. Thoughts?


As any Fulham or QPR fan will tell you at the moment the best right winger in the premiership is John Terry ( ALLEDGEDLY) :WHISTLE:
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:18 am  
Fergie's letter to Santa

Dear Santa.

I’ve had some absolutely shockin’ Christmas presents over the years. Mame Diouf, William bloody Prunier, but at least we’re usually on top of the League. This year we’re not. I’d usually write to the FA but they woudn’ae see it amongst all the hysterical letters from scousers telling ‘em how much Luiz Suares enjoyed the Richard Blackwood show, so I’m writing to you this year right? Here’s wha’ I want.

1. A world class central midfielder - We’ve been short in this area for a while now Santa, there’s no doubt about tha’. Now Scholsey’s gone we haven’ae had another one since Keano really, but I’d never tell ‘im tha’ the ungrateful troglodyte. Fletch & Carrick are good lads but they’re no Bryan Robson you know? No going forward anyway. Carrick’s no Bryan Robson going sideways either to be perfectly honest. And Ando will’nae stoop bloody eating. We’ve tried rationing the boy but he just goes an eats Ashley Young’s meals. We’ve put him on the Atkins now bit it doesn’ae work if you have it with chips. He’s hiding them in his hair, it’s a bloody nightmare to be perfectly honest. We need some quali’y pwayers. You can’t say fairer than tha’. So aye, a Sneijder or Modric would be absolutely superb.

2. Lots of money - We’ve been short in this area for a while now too if I’m bru’ally honest. We’re pretending we’re no but there’s only so many times I can talk about bloody value. I’m no on bloody QVC. I got the boy Bebe for £7 million last year Santa. £7 million! Absolutely shocking. I tried floggin’ him on to Kenny but he says he’s already bought a big lumping tramp with the touch of a baby elephant and it cost him £35million. See you cannae get the value these days.

3. A state of the art intensive care unit. - It’s bleak in our Medical Centre at the moment Santa. There’s no doubt abou’ that. It was alright when we were just trying ta keep Owen Hargreaves’ knees glued on but now it’s full of bloody pwayers. It’s like a scene from Contaigon. We’ve had to have Tom Cleverley bring his sleeping bag doon ‘cos there’s no bloody beds left. The twins have used up five making a fort by the physio’s table. One of them’s in there now with a dislocated hip from slipping on a bag of skips Ando left in the changing room. It’s a bloody nightmare. We were operating at full power anyway just to keep Ryan’s regeneration chamber running.

4. The ability to pretend the Europa League is a good competition to be in - I’m no daft. The only thing the Europa League has in common with the Champions League is that neither of them are bloody leagues. The fans complain the European Cup group states are boring, what are they gonna be like when we’re playing Dynamo Bruges and the Calcutta Postal Workers Union XI? And if we don’t win it’s an even bigger disappointment. Can you do somethin’ aboo’ that? Maybe stick some big handles onto the trophy or something? You can’t say fairer than that.

5. More of whatever it is Phil Jones is made out of - We’ve got the boy Jonesey coming through now right. Marvellous pwayer. But you cannae put too much weight on the boy’s shoulders you know? Even though he’s got bloody big shoulders on him that lad. He’s like a bloody Frankenstein’s monster made out of bits of Rugby players and steel. He’d run through brick walls that boy. Though we’ve not made him try. Can’t spare the beds. But if everyone had his drive and commitment we’d never lose a game. We’d have no idea what position anyone was playing in half the time but it’d be bloody good to watch. There’s no doubt abou’ that.

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P.S. And a nice bottle of Blue Nun would do nicely.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:38 am  
very good.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:36 am  
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Was having a debate with friends earlier, how would you list the current English wingers? I'd say Johnson - Downing - Walcott - Young - Albrighton. Thoughts?


I'll add one to your list Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Coyle will take him in January, he'll have a belting second half of the season like Sturridge & Wilshire have there before him and he'll make a real push for Euro 2012 I believe. I think he's a huge talent in the U21's & rare Arsenal appearances, two footed also.

There's more wide players available to England that what is made out, Downing, Lennon, Walcott, Young, Johnson, Joe Cole, Chamberlain, Sturridge.

Lesser ones like Moses, Jarvis, Etherington, Albrightson all solid performers for their clubs.

Johnson, Lennon, Young, Downing & Joe Cole have all been in fine form for large parts of this season. See Tottenham right now, don't look half as potent without him.

Sturridge is the best English winger in the league right now, he & Walcott.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:05 pm  
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Sturridge is the best English winger in the league right now, he & Walcott.


Is Sturridge really a winger??.....When he plays out wide, its only to accomadate him in the side surely?

At England level, I'd sooner he be employed in the middle.....He could easily be Rooney's replacement for those first 2 games in Ukraine.

I'd like to see him in the middle of a 3 behind a lone front man....Him in the middle, Walcott on the right, Young/Johnson on the left.....Barry and Parker anchoring them.....Probably Bent up top, until Rooney returns.

I firmly believe that, at international level, pace is the killer thing and those 3 would provide that.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:41 pm  
Depends really. I wonder if any Citeh fans remember Sturridge's performance away at Schalke, where he played left wing and ruined Rafinha all night?

He can play up front, but if England were to play a 4-3-3, Sturridge would be a good option for either side. Whilst he isn't a natural winger in that sense, he can do a better job than any of our other 'wide players', so we should strongly consider him.

Downing is average.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:34 pm  
Walcott, Rooney, Sturridge would be Englands best bet imo.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:54 pm  
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He brings the best cross out of any of the pre mentioned wingers. I'd have Downing on the left and Ashley Young on the right personally.


If his crosses were that good surley he'd already have an assist to his name this season? 17 games 0 goals 0 assists

Nani would struggle to cross a road yet has 6 assists and 7 goals from the same amount of games
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:42 pm  
Sturridge is no more a winger than Lee Penney. Stop this playing people out of position mularkey. Square pegs do not go in round holes at international level. Most of the time you're better playing somebody who plays in that position rather than a 'star' playing there just to put the 'star' on the field.
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