: Mon May 11, 2009 1:36 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

Why isn't Redknapp above Kiddink then? Surely the 1-0 win over Chelsea makes him a better manager? Worst way of ranking managers ever.

Yeah, ranking managers on how they perform in 2 leg CL quarter finals, what a daft way to rank them.

The reason that Redknapp isn't above Hiddink is that that was a one-off game, an aberation. Hiddink has won 11, drawn 1 and lost 1 league game. You don't judge on that one defeat when the other results were so different.

We're 2nd in the PL. We've taken 12 from 12 against our nearest rivals. We've lost twice all season. I don't need to say anymore than that to justify Benitez being a better manager than Hiddink. You rate Hiddink better on two games. Utterly embarrassing.

You are 3 points ahead of Chelsea, Chelsea are in the final of the FA Cup, Chelsea knocked you out of the CL. I rate Hiddink as performing better than Benitez because Hiddink has performed significantly better than Benitez since he was brought in by Chelsea.

If you want me to tell you my top 5 with no bias (which you will accuse me of anyway)

1. Ferguson - No question. Rotates his squad magnificently, odds on to complete the big double again. Spit.
2. - Pulis - Odds on to be relegated and has galvanised his squad into comfortably staying up.
3. Moyes - Terrible start, terrible injuries, great use of his limited squad and has his players fighting for everything.
4. Benitez - We're 2nd in the PL. We've taken 12 from 12 against our nearest rivals. We've lost twice all season. He's finally settled on our ebst formation. He's using players to the best of their abilities and has seen sense in allowing Gerrard the run of things.
5. Hodgson - Not spent a huge amount but same reasons as Moyes really, gets his players playing the right way to grind results out and they deserve a shot at Europe.

You think Benitez's 2nd place finish is better than an FA Cup final, a CL final reaching performance (only stolen by a truly dreadful reffing performance) and a won 11, drawn 1, lost 1 league record. I don't. Second place alone is a poor record, especially when one of the main reasons for that finish is Scolari.

: Mon May 11, 2009 1:40 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

I know what you mean, but I'm pretty sure Mourinho a few seasons back had a moan about playing after Man Utd, saying it adds pressure knowing you have to win, or something along those lines.

It wasn't a particularly valid moan by Mourinho either, but that was also different because it happened several times, it wasn't just the one occasion.

: Mon May 11, 2009 1:42 pm  

Snake Eater wrote:

I really fancy them to kick on, think this season has given them a belief and a change in mentality in the 2nd half of the season.

Torres and gerrard have only started 12 times together this season.

Had that figure been slightly higher possibly 15/16 times you'd probably see liverpool and united neck and neck.

They need to strengthen, but a few clever signings and i think they'll take united all the way.

you would think so, but there are so many variables, it doesnt always work like that though - and the fans will be expecting it next year if it doesn't arrive this year.


they may kick on , obviously i would rather they don't.

: Mon May 11, 2009 1:47 pm  

I'll be cheering on the Yorkshire side tonight, I don't like Alan Shearers grin...

: Mon May 11, 2009 1:50 pm  

LFCRhino wrote: You mean like here http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 09,00.html From what I've read of how the interview went, that's basically a journo stitching Wenger up to make a story. They went fishing to get Wenger to talk about Drogba, he said something not especially controversial and the journos then selectively quoted him to create an argument. Fabregas clearly fouled Drogba IMO. He deliberately kicked Drogba's trailing foot. IMO he wasn't booked for dissent or just that foul, he was booked because it was the third cynical foul he'd made. The most blatant dive was when Adebayor was involved in a 1-on-1 with Cech.

LFCRhino wrote: You mean like here http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 09,00.html From what I've read of how the interview went, that's basically a journo stitching Wenger up to make a story. They went fishing to get Wenger to talk about Drogba, he said something not especially controversial and the journos then selectively quoted him to create an argument. Fabregas clearly fouled Drogba IMO. He deliberately kicked Drogba's trailing foot. IMO he wasn't booked for dissent or just that foul, he was booked because it was the third cynical foul he'd made. The most blatant dive was when Adebayor was involved in a 1-on-1 with Cech.

: Mon May 11, 2009 2:06 pm  

Mark wrote:

Fletcher>Mascherano

: Mon May 11, 2009 2:08 pm  

Mourinho>ferguson

: Mon May 11, 2009 2:11 pm  

Snake Eater wrote:

I really fancy them to kick on, think this season has given them a belief and a change in mentality in the 2nd half of the season.

Torres and gerrard have only started 12 times together this season.

Had that figure been slightly higher possibly 15/16 times you'd probably see liverpool and united neck and neck.

They need to strengthen, but a few clever signings and i think they'll take united all the way.

Liverpool took 12 points from their games with Chelsea and Manchester United. The probability of them repeating that in the coming seasons is very slim indeed.

While Liverpool have improved slightly to probably finish second, United will probably go on to win the treble. The belief that United will gain from winning their third title in a row and second CL in a row will be slightly bigger from Liverpool's mammoth achievement in finishing second, IMNVHO.

: Mon May 11, 2009 2:35 pm  

ash4hullfc wrote:

Where abouts in Hull are you mate?

Newland Ave/Bev Road area. Going to the Old Picture House, mostly students so shouldnt be a problem

Thetalentboy wrote:

Shouldnt be a plastic fan then should you

I'm a plastic fan for going to uni in Hull?

: Mon May 11, 2009 2:57 pm  

Fletcher is getting all the praise now he's banned.

As does O'Shea, who has had a great season...everyone said so after he scored the opener in the CL SF.