Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue May 18, 2010 6:05 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

Was that from an American ?

Yeah, sounded like the Deep South.


Daunte Culpepper has a new team - The Sacramento Mountain Lions

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue May 18, 2010 7:54 pm  

I know it's been out there for a while (i've had exams so not been on much), but Cushing retaining his DRoY award is ridiculous after he failed a drug test. While there is no proof yet he took steroids (there are pictures of him months apart that look bad and the rumours have been around long before his positive test) the substance is a know masking agent for steroid users when coming off a cycle from what i've read. It can also arise naturally in the body but it has been said that it may not be likely given that he failed one test and passed the rest.

Whether he failed the test because he is taking steroids or because it occured naturally i think it is wrong he retains his award, because either way he has a banned substance in his body. They should have stripped it from him and given it to Byrd.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 6:25 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I know it's been out there for a while (i've had exams so not been on much), but Cushing retaining his DRoY award is ridiculous after he failed a drug test. While there is no proof yet he took steroids (there are pictures of him months apart that look bad and the rumours have been around long before his positive test) the substance is a know masking agent for steroid users when coming off a cycle from what i've read. It can also arise naturally in the body but it has been said that it may not be likely given that he failed one test and passed the rest.

Whether he failed the test because he is taking steroids or because it occured naturally i think it is wrong he retains his award, because either way he has a banned substance in his body. They should have stripped it from him and given it to Byrd.

I agree

I think they are just waiting for another test to come back before they do strip him of it though surely?

I cant say Im suprised with the 2 fat boy Viking players getting away with it for years seemingly unpunished

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 9:49 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

I agree

I think they are just waiting for another test to come back before they do strip him of it though surely?

I cant say Im suprised with the 2 fat boy Viking players getting away with it for years seemingly unpunished

No, they have already had a re-vote and he has retained it. I think he got 39 votes originally and now he's on 18 votes with Byrd on 12 and Matthews on 11 or something like that.

I really hope he hasn't been on 'roids because there were rumours when they were at USC that him and Clay Matthews were doing it. Obviously at that time the comments were unsubstantiated and i'm pretty sure Cushing threatened to sue one of the websites who made the comments.

I think it is also slightly different for the Williams sisters, they should definately be banned and possibly other sanctions, but as far as i know the susbtance they had, while a banned substance is only used for weight-loss etc and has no steroid effects. (I may be wrong).

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 11:13 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

No, they have already had a re-vote and he has retained it. I think he got 39 votes originally and now he's on 18 votes with Byrd on 12 and Matthews on 11 or something like that.

I really hope he hasn't been on 'roids because there were rumours when they were at USC that him and Clay Matthews were doing it. Obviously at that time the comments were unsubstantiated and i'm pretty sure Cushing threatened to sue one of the websites who made the comments.

I think it is also slightly different for the Williams sisters, they should definately be banned and possibly other sanctions, but as far as i know the susbtance they had, while a banned substance is only used for weight-loss etc and has no steroid effects. (I may be wrong).

Maybe the Williams sisters should have tried to lose weight the right way and not, seemingly, use aids to help them.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 11:32 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I think it is also slightly different for the Williams sisters, they should definately be banned and possibly other sanctions, but as far as i know the susbtance they had, while a banned substance is only used for weight-loss etc and has no steroid effects. (I may be wrong).

IIRC the substance the Williams's tested positive for is a diuretic also used as a masking agent hence the reason it's on the banned list?

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 12:46 pm  

Lane Kiffin is one of America's 16 most beautiful women, despite being a man Vote Lane!!

Lane Kiffin is one of America's 16 most beautiful women, despite being a man Vote Lane!!

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 2:09 pm  

V For Vendetta wrote: Lane Kiffin is one of America's 16 most beautiful women, despite being a man Vote Lane!! Looks like he's not going to win this matchup.

V For Vendetta wrote: Lane Kiffin is one of America's 16 most beautiful women, despite being a man Vote Lane!! Looks like he's not going to win this matchup.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Wed May 19, 2010 11:10 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

IIRC the substance the Williams's tested positive for is a diuretic also used as a masking agent hence the reason it's on the banned list?

The substance that trigged the failed test is bumentanide. The Williams sisters were taking StarCaps pills which were female wight loss tablets because they had weight clauses in their contracts. The issue is that the starcaps label and information had no information regarding the presence of this substance and the whole claim of the Williams twins is that they were victims of misleading/fraudulant behavior by this company.

They also argued that alledgedly the NFL was actually aware bumentanide was in the pills and didn't inform the players of it.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Fri May 21, 2010 8:38 am  

V For Vendetta wrote:

Had a very satisfying Madden match this morning, played as the Raiders against a guy using the Steelers who ran nothing but Wildcat, 3 Wide and Goal Line. Managed to stop his Wildcat at the 3rd attempt using the 46, and proceeded to put 50 points on the guy before he disconnected.

Its quite easy being the Raiders at times due to the speed of DHB. On another note, has anybody been watching the 30 for 30 on ESPN, brilliant documentaries.