Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:41 pm  

Liverpool have won the league. Chelsea and City will drop points, Liverpool won't.

They deserve it too, as much as I hate to see it happen. The likes of City and Chelsea are guilty of thinking they are vastly superior and rotating their squad every week. Liverpool don't, it's the same team each week.

What I think it funny is that there are no accusations that Liverpool are or have bought the title. I read today that they are set to announce losses of £100m over 2 years. That's a staggering figure.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:12 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Liverpool have won the league. Chelsea and City will drop points, Liverpool won't.

They deserve it too, as much as I hate to see it happen. The likes of City and Chelsea are guilty of thinking they are vastly superior and rotating their squad every week. Liverpool don't, it's the same team each week.

Liverpool have played 39 games so far this season. Chelsea 51 and City 52 (and they have 2 league games to catch up on).

Man City have played 4 games away in Europe, Chelsea have played 6 games in Europe.

You've got to rotate players if you're involved in Champions League campaigns. Liverpool haven't been in Europe and went out of the cups very quickly.

See how manage if they try doing this next season.

What I think it funny is that there are no accusations that Liverpool are or have bought the title. I read today that they are set to announce losses of £100m over 2 years. That's a staggering figure.

That figure is not allowed under FFP. They're not being audited this year because they haven't been in Europe.

UEFA are making an announcement over clubs that have failed FFP this week. Man City and PSG are supposed to 2 of the clubs to have breached FFP. What they do about it will determine whether FFP lives IMO.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:25 am  

Uefa are desperate to keep the European Commission on board with FFP. They can only do that by reserving serious punishments for teams that don't pay the bills or make sustained losses without making any attempt to become profitable. They can't use FFP to prevent new owners investing to break into the cartel. City will be profitable this year. If City are found to be in breach by more than the value of pre June 2010 contracts, they'll probably face a transfer embargo and then FFP will be sorted in the courts

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:09 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Liverpool have won the league. Chelsea and City will drop points, Liverpool won't.

Cheslea have won the league, liverpool and city will drop points, chelsea won't.

City have won the league, chelsea and liverpool will drop points, city won't.

It's still so difficult to call, and will probably go to the last game of the season with all 3 still able to win it.

If chelsea go to liverpool and mourinho their asses so it ends a draw, city show their class at everton and win all their other games (4 are home game bankers), city win. City still stand a very very good chance but because you look at the table and see a 7 point gap, plus the fact one of theirmain rivals just beat them it's easy to be clouded by this.

For liverpool to win they'll need to equal the PL record of wins on the trot, I'm not sure how likely that is. I feel like one of their last 4 games will be a draw, with the most likely being the chelsea game.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:26 pm  

Right now Liverpool are favourites, Cith 2nd favourites and Chelsea 3rd.

I have absolutely no idea what order they will end the season in.

I don't see Liverpool winning all 4 remaining games. I don't see Chelsea winning all 4 remaining games. I can see Man City winning all their 6 games, but given their penchant for bottling I can also see them slipping up.

My best guess would by 1. Liverpool 2. Man City 3. Chelsea.

But I definitely know that Jose Mourinho has the capacity to win a league and CL double with this Chelsea team too.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:24 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Right now Liverpool are favourites, Cith 2nd favourites and Chelsea 3rd.

I have absolutely no idea what order they will end the season in.

I don't see Liverpool winning all 4 remaining games. I don't see Chelsea winning all 4 remaining games. I can see Man City winning all their 6 games, but given their penchant for bottling I can also see them slipping up.

My best guess would by 1. Liverpool 2. Man City 3. Chelsea.

But I definitely know that Jose Mourinho has the capacity to win a league and CL double with this Chelsea team too.

If it wasn't for hose mourinho I wouldn't have given this chelsea team a prayer. Not that they are a poor team, far from it, they just don't have the strike power up front citeh and 'pool have.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:14 pm  

So that's City out of it then.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:40 pm  

They're not out of it, just slipped to third favourites now.

Just shows that points have to be earned. Both games tonight were pretty much considered points already won for Everton and Man City. Everton lose and City draw, both causing massive damage.

Delighted that results shoved Pellegrini's stupid words down his throat.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:45 pm  

Mathmatically, city aren't out of it.

But in reality, we know that they are. Losing against your direct title rivals and then drawing at home to relegation fodder, in the vital stages of a title run in.........it just ain't happening. They would need both liverpool and chelsea to slip up now, and a liverpool chelsea stalemate won't be enough either.

Liverpool and chelsea both have it in their own hands, with liverpool being able to afford a draw in the chelsea clash. Chelsea win their 4 remaining games, they take the title.

Winner will definitly be one of those 2 now.

The way the actual fixtures have fallen could play a part. Liverpool have home advantage in the final game, at home to a rudderless newcastle team with nothing to play for. Chelsea will be away from home at cardiff, who will most likely be playing for a premier league survival. Even if chelsea beat liverpool, they could slip up there in a dogfight of a game with liverpool cruising against newcastle.

Looks like liverpool for me now.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:21 pm  

Norwich usually collapse against Liverpool. Suarez has three hat tricks against them already and he's probably only played against them 6 times.

Liverpool play Sunday at noon. Chelsea play Sunderland at 5pm Saturday. Sunderland played on Wednesday while Chelsea have had a free week. While Chelsea and Liverpool should be taking three points I think that the timings of the matches heavily favour Chelsea. If Chelsea win against Sunderland they will take over at the top of the table for the day and noon kick offs often result in lacklustre performances. Norwich are fighting for their lives, Sunderland pretty much know they're down already.

From a CFC viewpoint I think the biggest problem we face is playing away at Anfield in the middle of the two CL semi final games. While I think this weekend the timings favour CFC, the CL semi is a gift from heaven for the scousers.

The scousers still have to go to Palace. Pulis could push his team to beating another title candidate to strengthen his push for Manager of the Year. Palace is a tough place and they are virtually safe already so will be able to play without any pressure.

The geordies might be sacking Pardew and nobody in their team might care about the game. But Pardew could be trying to do Mourinho a favour as Jose was one of very few voices who actually came out in support of him over the nutting fiasco.

I think Citeh are probably out of it, but being written off could mean that they are able to play without fear and win the rest of their games. I think they are massive bottle jobs but the situation facing them now is actually better than the one facing City when they nicked it off United.

I still think there are plenty of twists left. No one expected City to drop points against Sunderland yet they did. That has made the picture look very different, but the picture changes massively if either Chelsea or Liverpool don't take all three points at the weekend.