So steven/brendan, did the anniversary of hillsborough spur you on in todays victory?



Hardly going to say no are they?



Que headline ''Hillsborough victims provide inspiration for liverpool''

I hope that the media go with the 'this is a massive victory for football route'.

IF they do hold on, they did it without spending anywhere near as much as their rivals and they did it playing brilliant football, they've been a joy to watch this season.

It would sure as hell pish those mancs off as well, I reckon

Exactly, that's my point - Its journalism at its laziest..... Its not like this will be Liverpool's first title since the Hillsborough tragedy either.



They should stick to the football, which has been top notch, instead of this ridiculous media-driven campaign to give every single person associated with LFC some sort of sainthood, as the whitest-than-white football people in the whole wide world.

Rodgers has perfected that LFC manager perma-scowl, the one that says "we're hard done to, we have been hard done to, this club has had a lot of adversity but we come through it". Was there anything last year about Bradford getting to the League Cup final for the victims of the Valley Parade fire? I never saw it. I think the country as a whole has become engrossed in grief-mongering, but LFC have just perfected it to the Nth degree. And don't get me started on fans who end every forum post or tweet with #JFT96 or #YNWA. ugh.

Seems that Moyes's days are numbered...

Bookies have suspended betting on moyes getting sacked.

Feb 26th Bookies suspend betting on Pepe Mel sacking.



Who's the West Brom manager now?



Pepe Mel.

On the 1st march Lord God Jose Mourinho posted liverpool were not serious title contenders.



Who are 5 points clear with 3 games to go?



Liverpool.

I'm stealing from the scousers. If they do actually win the league, which they won't, then I'm just going to deny it ever happened.

Feel for Moyes. He did a decent job at Everton and it's not like we could blame him for taking that job.



He hasn't been given a chance, inheriting a team no other manager could have won anything with. They only won the league because of RVPs form and everyone being scared of Fergie's United. Their players should be getting slaughtered by the fans, not Moyes. What did the United fans on here make of Rooney's performance against Everton for example? I've never seen a player make it so obvious he's going through the motions before.

I agree he had no option but to take the job. I think Man Utd were crazy to offer it to him, but once offered he simply couldn't turn it down.



I feel for him if he is getting sacked. If he is getting sacked in the next few days then MU have completely messed up his sacking. If they were getting rid they should have done it first thing this morning so he doesn't have to put up with this.



ATM I think the media are just descending on United and trying to get him sacked. They know he's out and sense blood so they are pushing for it. I cannot believe that Man Utd are leaking this.







He has been given a chance. If he'd managed top 4 then he'd have been safe. The fact he's been so spectacularly bad is no one's fault but his.

Possibly, but if the likes of RVP, Rooney, Valencia and co suddenly start next season like they played under Fergie it will look very suspect. I don't think the players were ever on board with his appointment and if that was the case top 4 would be near impossible.



I said at the time he was appointed that whoever went in there first was a sacrificial lamb, taking the inevitable decline on the chin and being sacked within 18 months. Next will no doubt come a bigger name, who probably would have been too savy to take the poisoned chalice from Fergie. The next manager will be given the time and the expectations have been adjusted by Moyes taking the fall. Top 4 would be grand and enable them to build.



What happens to Fellaini now? Taken on by Moyes on a big contract for a big fee, but never a player that would culturally fit United. Despite that he's probably in the top 20 Premiership players in terms of his impact if using his form at Everton as the yardstick.

Why would the players be impressed at the thought of David Moyes coming in and managing them? There's probably only a handful of kids in the United squad who haven't blown him out of the water in terms of achievement.







I think this is nonsense. I think if Guardiola had taken on the job he'd have made massive changes and probably been in the top 4. Klopp too would have completely changed the playing style and would have been building a new side.



Mourinho could have been used as a sacrificial lamb, if that's what United wanted. He'd have still made the top 4 and there would have been the added bonus of Chelsea imploding.



It's easier for the incoming manager than it would have been last season, but Man United are in a lot worse position now than they were last year. The incoming manager who Man United should have been appointing would have coped with the burden of taking over from SAF.



I've said all along that Tottenham or Newcastle was the job for Moyes. A smaller jump with less pressure and more time.







First choice. He stays at Man United and proves himself under the new boss. If he leaves Man United he's unlikely to get another crack at it. Put this season down to struggling to fit into a new club and the disaster that is Moyes.



Second choice. He impresses at the World Cup and some stupid club gives United their money back,



Third choice. Back to Everton at a big discount. That fee is not disclosed.

Man Utd & Moyes part company.

(Statement from the club shortly after 8.30am)

He's gone. Sack the players instead as they're not fit to wear the shirt.

Yeah, sack the players so that they have to pay out their contracts and lose out on transfer fees probably well over 200 million quid.



And those players have proved themselves as pretty awful. I mean, they only won the league twice in the last three years, and finished level on points when they finished second. Complete and utter donkeys. It's clearly their fault that the managerial genius of David Moyes lost his job.

Will Man Utd pay up all his contract?....that's one hell of a pension fund.



6 year deal....what were they thinking?





As for the players...well they will be in for a shock if Van Gaal gets the job...makes Fergie look like a diplomat.



He will tell it like it is...even to the media.

There'll be some sort of break clause in the contract. One reporter has claimed that they can limit the pay out to one year's salary because they cant qualify for the CL.



Mourinho looked sick as a pig yesterday.

The way United's season has turned out, I guess it's not suprising.



Though It's suprising in the sense you expected United to stick by their supposed principles and give him time. I expected a summer of transfers and then another crack next year, then if things were going tits up I expected they would pull the plug.



The timing makes sense. Gives time for the dust to settle and a replacement installed well in time for a summer of spending and a good pre season.



It also means, for any new man coming in, theres a partition between fergusons reign now, which, I know it's only a season but it does take alot of pressure off the new guy than if they had been coming in straight after ferguson. Now that the first one after fergie is over and done with, it feels like it lifts some of his overbearing shadow from the club.



LGJM got it spot on when I think he posted earlier Moyes was the sacrificial lamb. The first one after fergie was always on a hiding to nothing.



Moyes' career is going to stagnate now. He will not get a chance at a top club ever again. Mid table and relegation stragglers are where he will be confined to now, for the rest of his career. He'll do a really good job when he takes over these level of teams but i doubt he'll be adding any honours to his CV anytime soon.

The only surprise is why now and why did they do it in such a nasty fashion.







It was deluded Man United nonsense that they backed managers. They had the most successful manager in British history who delivered pretty much constant success for 20 years. They didn't need to back him because he was always delivering success.







That's an expensive gamble on a manager who has shown absolutely nothing this season worthy of backing. He got the job solely because he was Ferguson's choice. He's offered nothing this season to justify that decision. So why gamble 100m on his new players when the probability is that someone new will have to be coming in anyway? He probably overspent on Mata, who might not be a title winning player but purely a cup winner and overspent on Fellaini. Neither signing has helped MU this season.







The timing makes sense because they are finally out of the running for Europe and that seems to have limited the pay out he gets. But sacking him on Tuesday and leaking it on the Monday is nasty.







Fergie's achievements are still there. Fergie will still be at the club. I think the pressure is just as much. In fact the fact that United are missing out on CL money means there's even more pressure. The new guy could have had this season as his transition season and probably kept them in the CL, now he's got to get them back into the CL and cope with having Fellaini and Rooney in his side on massive wages.







I don't know what I wrote that makes you think that, but that's not my opinion.



I think Fergie appointed him mainly because he thought Moyes could become successful. But I think the biggest driver was the fact Moyes would be earning 4.5m a year while Mourinho or Guardiola would probably be on at least 8. Fergie was said to be on 6m a year. Walking out the door the most successful manager in British history and seeing someone walk in on 8m? I don't think he could do it.



IMO the major problem with those figures are that Fergie was chronically underpaid compared to what he did for MU. But that was caused because he was there 25 years and not really prepared to go anywhere else or use other offers to drive his wages up. He chose trophies over cash, IMO the polar opposite to that French git in north London.







The geordies or Spurs are both likely to have vacancies. Moyes as Newcastle manager and Kevin Keegan as his assistant manager to offer attacking ideas he struggles with.



He will need to change his moronic attitude to the cups though.

Not sure where this idea of 'united's principles' comes from



Ferguson was always outspoken about the sacking culture, and he has a point.



People (many United fans) say United have a history of not sacking managers, they don't they have a history of not sacking SAF. Docherty got sacked after winning the FA Cup, Sexton got sacked after something like 8 straight wins, but painfully dull football. Big Fat Ron got sacked after delivering relative success over a number of years. Ferguson and Busby had long tenures, other than them it's been a bit stop start.



The players haven't covered themselves with glory, but I don't buy this 'ageing squad' nonsense, it needs some money spending on it, especially replacing such a good partnership as Vidic & Ferdinand, but there are plenty of good players in that squad, and this time last year the same squad was a dodgy red card (IMO) and a spot of indecision away from a CL final and was in the process of romping home to a fairly comfortable PL title. The same squad has been supplemented to the tune of £80 + the emergence of Januzaj



Moyes was given a very easy ride by the majority of the media, he has been a complete and utter car crash of an appointment.

LGJM - disagree about Mata, but we've only seen the best of him in games where injuries have forced his hand selection wise. I think will prove to be a good signing, Fellaini however has looked a complete donkey

I think we have seen a couple of instances in the last year of what a good / liked / respect coach can achieve opposed to one who isn't those things.



The swing in the Ashes from the series in England to the one in Aus, granted Lehmann was in charge in England, but just as the ashes was about to start. England were comfortable, if not convincing winners. A couple of months later and the Aussies wipe the floor with England and clearly are putting it in for the coach with a couple of key players playing out of their skins.



The difference in the united players under Moyes as opposed to ferguson is clearly marked too. I know there was some serious dissatisfaction with the coaching methods and onus of defensive drills (that worked well), and Giggs just walking off the training pitch after hours of constant defensive work.

Another great result for Liverpool yesterday

I see Liverpool are setting themselves up for being fleeced in the transfer market this summer.



Ian Ayre stated today "It will cost what it costs when we decide who the manager wants to buy". They are saying that once Brendan decides who he wants, they will go and get them, regardless of cost.



So if you are the Chairman that receives that call from Ayre your starting position is take the players value, double it and add £10m. Your £10m Spanish midfielder suddenly becomes £30m.



Why would someone so high up in the business side of a football team set himself up like that? If they wanted some PR spin, they could have stopped at 'We'll back Brendan this summer'.