Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:43 pm  

Harrigan wrote:

I said picking 1st was a bad thing

It is when you love that pick up.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:18 pm  

Ndamukong wrote:

It is when you love that pick up.

I still maintain he was been a better pick than AP. The main problem is that I was scraping the barrel every time my picks came around again. Even if I had picked AP I still think I would be winless. Proof being that in another league I had 1st pick and have only won 2 games this year, and that was with picking AP.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:27 pm  

Harrigan wrote:

I still maintain he was been a better pick than AP. The main problem is that I was scraping the barrel every time my picks came around again. Even if I had picked AP I still think I would be winless. Proof being that in another league I had 1st pick and have only won 2 games this year, and that was with picking AP.

I picked 1st in one of my leagues. I'm 8-1 in it. I took AP like any sane person would. How could you be scraping the barrel? You were in one of the ideal positions where you get back to back picks.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:39 pm  

Ndamukong wrote:

I picked 1st in one of my leagues. I'm 8-1 in it. I took AP like any sane person would. How could you be scraping the barrel? You were in one of the ideal positions where you get back to back picks.

Because I had Torain and Grant as the only (at the time) decent RBs left. I know thats my fault for not taking a RB in the 1st place but still. In the Yahoo league where I picked midish I was top until yesterday. You may not get the top players but you get more all round solid players. In a 16 team league like ours after waiting 32 picks or whatever it was there wasnt a whole heap of quality left.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:40 am  

Well if you take 2 RBs who are injury prone and weren't guaranteed to start then your always gunna struggle. I would never take a QB in the first apart from Aaron Rodgers and that would only be if all the stud RBs went first. QB is a position where you can pick one up late and the difference between them and an elite isn't gunna be much. Look at Stafford etc. Have to say I hit the jackpot with Newton late in the draft though

BTW you passed on Benson, Greene, Fred Jackson, Best and Felix Jones before you took Torain. The options were there you just had a stinker

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:57 am  

WarwickUniWolf wrote:

The Packers run-in could potentially be pretty straight-forward. I said to other NFL fans at the start of the season that if we could get to the halfway point undefeated then we should barring a lapse here and there go 16 - 0. Our toughest games when looking down the schedule pre-season were the Saints on the opening day, the Falcons at the Dome and the Chargers away when they had not lost since 08 at Qualcomm. Last season we played similar to this year but just failed to grind out results and lost a few games by less than 3pts, and then Capers got the defense cooking for the run-in. Everyone seems to expect the defense to become much meaner ahead of the playoffs and to bring teams to Lambeau in January would be a big advantage.

Remaining Games
Minnesota Vikings @ Lambeau Field - Had a tough game a few weeks back at the Vikes but Monday Night Football at Lambeau is made for Rodgers and we should win comfortably against the lowest ranked team of our run-in.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Lambeau Field - Another home game and the Buccs seem to have fizzled out a bit, so I'd back us again.

Detroit Lions @ Ford Field - Any game at Ford Field is pretty tough and with the Lions having their best season in a long time, this is 1 of the hardest games for the Pack. A rival game also, much will depend on how the Lions do against Chicago and Carolina before this game. It looked as if the dream season was unravelling with defeats to SF and Atlanta but they crushed Denver before the bye week. Will probably be close but if they go down by 14/21 points then I don't think they'll come back and the Pack should win.

NY Giants @ MetLife Stadium - Our toughest game for the remainder of the season. But NY's 6 -2 record could easily be 6 -5 by the time the Packers roll in to town, with games against SF, Phillie and the Saints to come. If they take 2/3 of those games then it will be a fascinating battle. Hopefully Capers's Defense will be playing tighter at this stage. Close game.

Oakland Raiders @ Lambeau Field - Shouldn't have much if any problems with this one. Sorry Raiders fans.

Kansas City Chiefs @ Arrowhead Stadium - The Chiefs had picked up form in the last few weeks but to be crushed by the Dolphins at home is poor. An efficient performance should see a comfortable win.

Chicago Bears @ Lambeau Field - Any game against Chicago is tough, but we got the game at Soldier Field out of the way so hopefully this game on Christmas Day could take Green Bay to 15 - 0.

Detroit Lions @ Lambeau Field - Much will depend on what our record is going into this one. If we are 15 - 0, then McCarthy may put out a strong team to go for the undefeated season. If we have slipped up once or twice en route but have sealed the #1 seed already, could rest Rodgers and a few others. There is also a chance that the Lions could need this one to get into the Playoffs so will probably be tight. Think it'd be foolish to rest players though - the foundation of our run last year was from 2/3 games out we became a machine with stunning momentum. Same again

So yes - there is a good chance we could finish 16 - 0, but it's likely we will slip up once or twice, possibly against the Giants or the Bears/Lions at the end of the season. Hopefully we'll stay relatively injury free, although to win a Super Bowl with a 2nd string team almost means we have great strength in depth.

Once again a great evaluation. I think the thanksgiving game is the one. They have the front four to cause Rodgers problems.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:34 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Our defence has looked shaky all year, we are making turnovers but allowing far too many yards. It is a testament to how good Clay Matthews is that he is still making plays and disrupting the QB because he is our only pass rushing threat. If the D can step up a notch or two then I think we are in excellent shape.

23 tackles and 3 sacks 0 fumbles Matthews is having a down year, great talent though.. Not in the same league as Demarcus Ware, 34 tackles 12 sacks and 2 fumbles. That isn't having a pop at Matthews, nobody is in the same universe as Ware.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:59 am  

William Bonney wrote:

23 tackles and 3 sacks 0 fumbles Matthews is having a down year, great talent though.. Not in the same league as Demarcus Ware, 34 tackles 12 sacks and 2 fumbles. That isn't having a pop at Matthews, nobody is in the same universe as Ware.

Yeah he's definately having a down year statistically. He is still playing well though. He is the only pressure we get. He constantly has to fight double teams and chip blocks but is still pressurising the QB and disrupting the run game.

Ware is great though.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:57 pm  

Albert Haynesworth should be a Tennessee Titan again as that is where he belongs and played his best.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:15 pm  

William Bonney wrote:

The run in for Americas team.


Buffalo (W)
@ Washington (W)
Miami (W)
@ Arizona (W)
Giants (W)
@ Tampa (W)
Philadelphia (L)
@ Giants (L)

10-6 NFC East champions.

As a Giants fan I'd much prefer that run in to ours. (@ 49ers, v Philadelphia, @ New Orleans, v GB, @ Dallas, v Washington, @ Jets, v Dallas. I don't think you're too far off with your predictions, although winning 6 in a row is tough in the NFL. The Giants game v San Fransisco this week is massive, if we can win this and then go 3 out of 4 in the 3 remaining divisional games I think we'll do enough to win the NFC East.