Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:10 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

You've got a real problem with Manning, haven't you?

He's in the top 2 QBs of his generation, no questions asked IMO. Blaming him for the Colts losing in the Superbowl is equivalent to blaming Rogers for the Packers losing to the Cardinals - it shows a deep lack of understanding of the game beyond personality politics.

I would say the number 1 QB of his generation even though Tom Brady has three rings to Peyton's one.....but that's only my opinion.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:48 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I would say the number 1 QB of his generation even though Tom Brady has three rings to Peyton's one.....but that's only my opinion.

I would say 3rd of his generation. Favre 1, Brady 2, Peyton 3. I think he is slightly better than Brady, but the rings (even if gained through dubious means ) elevate him above Peyton. Favre is a clear first.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:01 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

You've got a real problem with Manning, haven't you?

He's in the top 2 QBs of his generation, no questions asked IMO. Blaming him for the Colts losing in the Superbowl is equivalent to blaming Rogers for the Packers losing to the Cardinals - it shows a deep lack of understanding of the game beyond personality politics.

Not really I just like taking the pish and watching everyone stick up for him

Anyway a QB as good as him should be able to stop himself telegraphing a pass to a CB when there was no need to do it in the first place, there was plenty of time on the clock and they had good field position but I guess it was the o-lines fault

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:05 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I would say 3rd of his generation. Favre 1, Brady 2, Peyton 3. I think he is slightly better than Brady, but the rings (even if gained through dubious means ) elevate him above Peyton. Favre is a clear first.

Interesting argument, all have lost Superbowls. Some have great individual seasons behind them. Rodgers will overtake them all anyway.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:09 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Not really I just like taking the pish and watching everyone stick up for him

Anyway a QB as good as him should be able to stop himself telegraphing a pass to a CB when there was no need to do it in the first place, there was plenty of time on the clock and they had good field position but I guess it was the o-lines fault

To be fair to Peyton, Porter just guessed luckily, if he get's it wrong its probably a touchdown the other way. Still only five QBs to drive their teams for a winning touchdown in the superbowl/championship game inside the last two minutes.

Unitas
Montana
Elway
Big Ben
Eli.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:18 pm  

P Manning is the best QB I have personally seen play the game. Probably a nose ahead of Brady and Favre with Warner getting involved in the top 5 as well. Talking about dubious decisions helping the Colts out. Can you Pats fans say "Tuck Rule"?

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:33 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

P Manning is the best QB I have personally seen play the game. Probably a nose ahead of Brady and Favre with Warner getting involved in the top 5 as well. Talking about dubious decisions helping the Colts out. Can you Pats fans say "Tuck Rule"?

The tuck rule which is a valid rule within the NFL that was rightly called, which you are comparing to phantom pass interference calls the Colts get? sure the tuck rule was harsh on the Raiders, but it's there in the rule book, so was rightly called.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:34 pm  

Hes the best player I have seen too stat wise, thats what I dont get because I say he chokes in the playoffs(which he does ) Im saying hes a poop player? .
I think Brady is a better QB under pressure , whats so wrong with that?

Yeah the tuck rule, Dont tell me you think its our fault? we got a lucky break and took advantage, simples
Our offence came of the field annoyed that they had blown the play and chance to win the game! Little did they know waht the refs were about to see
Its not our fault the league hates Al Davis

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:40 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

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I think Brady is a better QB under pressure :

Like in 2008?

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:57 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

The tuck rule which is a valid rule within the NFL that was rightly called, which you are comparing to phantom pass interference calls the Colts get? sure the tuck rule was harsh on the Raiders, but it's there in the rule book, so was rightly called.

How can it be harsh if it was correctly called? It's either a call or it isn't

Just trying to make a point that all teams get breaks and they even out over time. IMO there isn't a conspiracy to enable the Colts to win all the time. They just have an exceptional QB that makes them 5-6 games a year better off than they would be with any other QB under centre.