Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:30 pm  

V For Vendetta wrote:

To be fair, Seabass is coming off a career season in which he was arguably the best kicker in the NFL. It is a depressing thing though to say that the strongest unit for the Raiders is our kicking teams.

It comes to something when the Raiders best players are Janikowski and Lechler.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:03 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

8)

Im not so sure he doesnt deserve another chance, yes he was drink driving and yes he was speeding but when some silly fecker is walking over a freeway surely anyone could have hit him that morning and the fact his family were willing to accept a large amount of money rather than get him sent to prison for a very long time says to me that there were other circumstances involved in the case perhaps!!

The guy walking on the freeway was in the wrong place, but that doesn't exclude that Stallworth was drink driving (and you say speeding). IF he hadn't have been any of those things then no matter how stupid the actions of the victim were he could have avoided the situation/reacted quicker/seen it earlier and the guy wouldn't be dead.

As far as i'm concerned he shouldn't be in the league.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:31 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

You should just keep giving him 1 year deals if he is that good in contract years

His accuracy is terrible at times but he has sure got a big boot on him hasnt he

He's always been pretty accurate from inside 50, most of his misses come from beyond that distance, and two of the three he missed this season were from over 60 IIRC.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:08 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He's always been pretty accurate from inside 50, most of his misses come from beyond that distance, and two of the three he missed this season were from over 60 IIRC.

Attempting kicks from 60 yards out just shows how inept the Raiders offence really is. JaMarcus Russell is a waste of space I'm sorry to say.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:19 pm  

Link Browns cut Jamal Lewis.

Link Browns cut Jamal Lewis.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:19 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

Attempting kicks from 60 yards out just shows how inept the Raiders offence really is. JaMarcus Russell is a waste of space I'm sorry to say.

I dont think you will get many disagreeing with that especially most Raiders fans

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:40 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

JaMarcus Russell is a waste of space I'm sorry to say.

Terrible player and one of the worst starting QB's in the league, definately in the bottom five.

Worst- Jamarcus Russell
2- Matt Cassell (i read is the 3rd highest paid QB next year and is on a bigger contract than Rodgers...Scandalous!)
3- Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
4- Jake Delhomme
5- Trent Edwards/Matt Hasselbeck (tied)

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:58 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Terrible player and one of the worst starting QB's in the league, definately in the bottom five.

Worst- Jamarcus Russell
2- Matt Cassell (i read is the 3rd highest paid QB next year and is on a bigger contract than Rodgers...Scandalous!)
3- Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
4- Jake Delhomme
5- Trent Edwards/Matt Hasselbeck (tied)

That is what happens when Al Davis drafts your players and not the relevant coaches. He'll never learn will the Crypt Keeper.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:18 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Terrible player and one of the worst starting QB's in the league, definately in the bottom five.

Worst- Jamarcus Russell
2- Matt Cassell (i read is the 3rd highest paid QB next year and is on a bigger contract than Rodgers...Scandalous!)
3- Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
4- Jake Delhomme
5- Trent Edwards/Matt Hasselbeck (tied)

How is Cassel a bad QB? or is he bad because he has one of the worst O lines in the league, or because he played for New England? No way is he 2nd worst QB in the league and no mention of Marc Bulger is crazy.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:26 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

How is Cassel a bad QB? or is he bad because he has one of the worst O lines in the league, or because he played for New England? No way is he 2nd worst QB in the league and no mention of Marc Bulger is crazy.

Actually i forgot about Bulger.

I'd put Russell as worst, followed by Bulger and then Cassell.

Calibre of O-line is a consideration but you can still be a great QB with a terrible O-line, we gave up the most sacks and Rodgers is still one of the best QB's.

Cassell is a bad QB because he is overrated based on one year when he was decent with two of the best recievers, he struggles with the deep balls (not neccesarily strength but accuracy). He is just generally bad and is vastly overpaid based on his skills, it has nothing to do with who he did/does play for.