Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:03 pm  

Dunbar wrote:

If you are going to comment on the relationship between the two codes in the UK could I suggest that you do some research and begin to understand the history. When you have done that, you will see how false your assumptions are

Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.


Its like suggesting those people that like to eat apples are going to rise up as one and declare total war on those people who eat pears.

Seriously.

Stop being so paranoid.


Rugby League will carry on being popular with those people that like it.

Rugby Union will carry on being popular with those people that like it.


I seriously think you people lie in bed at night thinking up things to worry about.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:51 pm  

Dunbar wrote:

On the topic of crowds, I have seen some very worrying attendances over the first few weeks of the Union season (worrying for them) - it looks like Sale, Newcastle, Leeds, Saracens etc are in for a tough season

The Saracens crowd looked weirdly low, absolute mystery. I think Cj and Catalancs picked up on Newcastle and I also noted Gloucester's drop in attendances.

I doubt that any will get into financial difficulties, but the RFU might think again about its expansionism.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:30 pm  

Barry_McKenzie wrote: Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre. OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana

Barry_McKenzie wrote: Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre. OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:36 pm  

Dunbar wrote: OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France. Breaking News. I think banning Rugby League is quite far down on the current british governments 'to do' list... probably a few places below 'sort the economy out'

Dunbar wrote: OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France. Breaking News. I think banning Rugby League is quite far down on the current british governments 'to do' list... probably a few places below 'sort the economy out'

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:21 pm  

Barry_McKenzie wrote:

Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.


Its like suggesting those people that like to eat apples are going to rise up as one and declare total war on those people who eat pears.

Seriously.

Stop being so paranoid.


Rugby League will carry on being popular with those people that like it.

Rugby Union will carry on being popular with those people that like it.


I seriously think you people lie in bed at night thinking up things to worry about.

Barry what you have to realise myself and Urmston Wire have obviously had bad experinces where union is concerned.
And also like Dunbar has said there is a lot of history between RL and union(most of it bad) dating right back to 1895 to the present day.

For me RL is the best sport in the world and always will be but when I get abuse on this site from fellow RL fans and union fans for having a go at union they jump on my back and call me bigoted and once I was called a bell end(which in laughed at BTW) and yet they don't understand what I went through at the time.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:43 am  

Barry_McKenzie wrote:

The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.

In fact in 2002, the French Government found it was rugby union.



ARLT.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:44 am  

Dunbar wrote: OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana He is a union apologist or at best an ARLT. Waste of time.

Dunbar wrote: OK, thanks for the insight Barry Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052 Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana He is a union apologist or at best an ARLT. Waste of time.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:37 am  

Barry_McKenzie wrote:

The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.

It's a pretty sad admission but I know quite a lot about the Vichy regime and this is the story as far as my research has shown.

Vichy banned all professional sport as 'corrupting'. However, only one sport was banned outright, and that was rugby league.

Now, Marshal Petain was not a huge fan of sport anyway, so he wasn't particularly bothered, nor was the real power behind the throne, Pierre Laval.

However, the leading collaborationist writer, Robert Braisillach, was a big RU fan and hated RL with a passion. He and his colleagues at the French RU lobbied Petain and Laval to ban RL and turn over its assets to union. The name 'rugby league' remained banned even after the game was re-legalised by De Gaulle, and the name remained banned until 1991.

So yes, RU actively tried to destroy RL before. Not under Nazi pressure or Petain's pressure.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:21 am  

cjhatesunion wrote:

I get abuse on this site from fellow RL fans and union fans for having a go at union they jump on my back and call me bigoted and once I was called a bell end(which in laughed at BTW) and yet they don't understand what I went through at the time.

I dont wish to trivialise whatever it was you went through with Rugby Union.. but I'm genuinely interested as to what it might have been that scarred you for life. Tell me.. I promise not to call you a 'Bell End'

If its really embarrassing (or of a sexual nature) feel free to pm me or drop me an email at the address below in total confidence.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:34 pm  

Urmston Wire wrote:

Plus, I've occasionally had abuse from unionistas if I've had a Wire or England RLtop on, and I know I'm not the only one.

You deserved every thing you got