Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:57 pm  

flipper wrote:

what do the non United fans make of GNev as a pundit?

I think he's good. Looked a bit awkward when he first started but seems a lot more comfortable on camera now. As much as I didn't like him when he was on the pitch, I like him as a pundit.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:03 pm  

flipper wrote:

what do the non United fans make of GNev as a pundit?

He isn't actually that bad, but I don't think he's being totally honest when he's on. He's clearly trying/tried to make a different impression of himself compared to what most think, but, like Andy Gray in the past, his clear bias and loyalty will eventually come through.

But for now, he's been alright, said some decent stuff and isn't afraid to say something different (although his repetition of absolutely is a bit daft), but I wonder what will happen the longer he spends his time around crap pundits.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:13 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

true - he doesn't have a plan B but he saved Spurs from relegation which I see as a major coup, as good as winning a trophy

so who would you suggest as a possible England Head Coach ? The FA have tried coaches of every type and profile so who would be the perfect choice ?

Gordon The Gopher
John Inman
You and your mum
Roy Race
Gordon Brown
Simon Cowell
Gary Barlow
Lady GaGa
the choice is yours, but each are as valid as our twitching "plan B-less, friend"


Redknapp is a media darling. That's where it begins and ends

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:23 pm  

flipper wrote:

what do the non United fans make of GNev as a pundit?

City fan's perspective.

I think he's superb.

He doesn't mince his words. When somebody's not "putting a shift in" he can tell, and he lets it known. Unlike the rest of 'em. He doesn't "pussyfoot" around bad play/decisions.
Yes, he's a bit "one eyed", but not to the extent of other pundits.
Will admit when his team is in the wrong.
Long may he continue

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:11 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

true - he doesn't have a plan B but he saved Spurs from relegation which I see as a major coup, as good as winning a trophy

....He saved you from relegation????......He took over about 8 games into a season, it wasn't exactly a crisis when he took over....You simply had a top class squad that wasn't performing. you were NEVER going down with that squad.....There was more chance of Hodgson taking Liverpool down last year (and that was never going to happen either, despite what the Dalglish-obsessed kopites might have you believe).

Fair enough backing the twitchy-eyed one, but don't build up his CV into something it isn't.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:33 pm  

Tiote, deary me

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:09 pm  

I think Gary Neville is very good as a pundit. I think there was an automatic dislike of the thought of him being so quickly propelled into punditry, but he's been a very good addition to a pretty dire pool of ex players.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:35 pm  

Superbowl Scott wrote:

Harsh on AVB for me. I still think we'd make the top 4 if he was in charge. Unfortunatly the likes of Cole, Lamps, JT etc have managed to get rid. IMO AVB had a difficult job with the senior players, too many are too old now but they still expected to get picked every week.

Jose

Harsh on AVB??? He's done practically nothing right since taking over. He's made a joke of himself with the way he's fought with the media, his player relations have been abysmal, but the biggest failure has been the awful football and poor results. He's lucky to have lasted this long.

Cole has been poor for a lot of the season, but AVB kept picking him. Lampard has been sidelined, yet the results weren't good enough he's still managed to be top scorer. As Lampard said, if he was dropped and the team were performing then there's a good argument for him to be dropped, but he's been dropped for players clearly less effective than him. I think JT has performed really well this season, one of the few who have done their job.

We need Mourinho badly.

The mistake with AVB is to have appointed him way too early. I don't think it's a mistake to get rid of him now.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:45 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Chelsea's basic problem is that the players they've brought in to replace the old guard, or at least make them less dependent on Terry, Lampard, Essien, Drogba etc, haven't worked out. The Torres buy has been a unmitigated disaster and only Mata is anything like the quality they need. Every time the manager tries to exert his authority, for example by dropping Lampard, the replacements just prove how much he's still needed.

AVB didnt seem to me to be up to the job, but I also think he's paid the price for all the average buys since Mourinho's early days. And to be honest I cant really see how a new manager will fare much better.

While I think we have fallen well behind Citeh and United, the clear fact is that we still have far more quality than West Brom, Birmingham, Everton, Swansea, Norwich, Villa, Fulham and Wigan. And AVB has failed to beat any of them since mid December.

And while poor results will always happen, no matter how good a side is, the fact is that we didn't really deserve much out of any of those games either.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:29 am  

The problem is, LGJM; how many more managers can Chelsea go through and they not be good enough? I know you persist with the 'Mourinho should never have been let go', which in ways is right, he'd signed so many players to suit his style of play, I found it odd that Roman would suddenly want to support another manager. However, Avram Grant came in and taken you on to the verge of something special, despite Mourinho getting off to an average start that season. Next season, Scolari comes in, players don't like his training, players don't like him, sacked. Hiddink comes in, does really well again but doesn't want the job. Next, Ancelotti, wins two trophies, struggles in his second season and obvious signs are there that players have a problem with him, he's sacked, AVB comes in and the exact same problem has continued.

When will Chelsea grow a pair and support a manager over all of the players? I couldn't imagine any of Liverpool's players undermining Dalglish; why can't Chelsea's players treat every manager with the same respect that they had for Mourinho?

I seen enough with AVB's Porto side to know that AVB was an outstandingly talented manager; how many more will Chelsea go through before they realise that quite a lot of their players aren't good enough to compete at the top anymore? There are barely any players in Chelsea's side that convince me that they're consistently good enough these days. Off the top of my head, I'd say Mata and Sturridge are Chelsea's only high quality offensive players, whilst their defence has been a shadow of former seasons. When will Chelsea begin their clear-out and rejuvenate the entire first team squad? Or will he continue to spend £30m on firing and hiring managers hoping to get the best from high-value deadwood?