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Sorry Harrigan but Josh Freeman :lol: :lol: :lol:


That one wasn't all on him. 2 receivers ran into each other FFS.
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What's the record for points conceded in a game btw?

50 mins til the Magic game though. Hopefully today's not a total write off :lol:
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Matt Flynn has probably earned himself a starting job next year with that performance. Said before he is good enough to play for a number of teams in the league.
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Nice effort? What are you going on about? Aikman and Buck were discussing it during the Saints v Panthers game. Could be close.


I apologise, I figured you were baiting (and even if it was discussed i doubt it was in the terms you posted it!).

Anyway the only reason it's even a discussion is because A) we've lost a game. B) Rodgers has dipped slightly the last few weeks. C) Breesus has been incredible the last few weeks. It the old "what have you done for me lately" addage. If you take the course of the whole season it is clearly Rodgers (and I'm a big Brees fan). I do expect him to get votes- as its out of 50 maybe a split of 25, 15, 10 for Rodgers/Brees/Brady?

Brees throws more than Rodgers (122 more attempts). He obviously has the yards and a slightly higher completion percentage 70.7 to Rodgers 68.3. Yet Rodgers has a better average yardage per pass, more TD's (45 to 41), less INT's (6 to 13) and is the all time leader for passer rating (both regular and post season) with his percentage being 122.5 this year.

Not to mention Brees has played 11 dome games (Rodgers has played 3) and having a significantly worse offensive line to Brees/Brady.

Rodgers by plenty! :wink:

Oh, the stats are from last week. I'm not 100 sure how Brees did today stat wise and obviously Rodgers didn't play.


You can use stats to support arguments in loads of different ways. Green Bay have been opportunistic on defense this season and have 29 interceptions and 5 fumble recoveries, compared to New Orleans having 8 interceptions and 6 fumble recoveries. That obviously affects starting field position and would likely have given Rodgers a shorter field in those situations.

It would be interesting to see what the average starting field position was for each team and whether they were driving their team down the length of the field or half of it.

Again, you're using that word 'clearly'. I think it's going to be a lot closer than you think, especially with Brees breaking the passing yardage record!
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You can use stats to support arguments in loads of different ways. Green Bay have been opportunistic on defense this season and have 29 interceptions and 5 fumble recoveries, compared to New Orleans having 8 interceptions and 6 fumble recoveries. That obviously affects starting field position and would likely have given Rodgers a shorter field in those situations.

It would be interesting to see what the average starting field position was for each team and whether they were driving their team down the length of the field or half of it.

Not including this week

Average starting field position for each of us is:
New Orleans- 28.29 (14th)
Green Bay- 30.19 (6th)

NO are #1 in the league at yards per drive average (41.36 to 39.27 (2nd)), lowest punt per drive average (.274 to .331 (3rd)) and drive success rate (.780 to .771 (2nd)).

In contrast GB are #1 in the league at points per drive average (3.04 to 2.88 (2nd)), TD per drive average (.370 to .341 (2nd)), turn over per drive average (.058 to .110 (9th)), fumbles per drive (.013 to .030 (8th)).

Other than average starting position the only stat which neither GB or NO rank first in is averge interceptions per drive. GB have .045 (2nd) and NO have .079 (16th). SF lead that stat at .029.

Defences also start around the same area. The average starting position for the NO defence is 25.82 (5th) and GB on the 25.17 (3rd).

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Again, you're using that word 'clearly'. I think it's going to be a lot closer than you think, especially with Brees breaking the passing yardage record!


Incredible to break that record, and i hope nobody thinks i'm trying to diminish that. However with the exception of that (and a marginally higher completion percentage) Rodgers is better in most stats, has the worst offensive line, worst defence (yardage), has won the head to head, and lost once in a year. Not to mention playing 3 games in domes compared to 11.

The result.....Rodgers is clearly better. :wink:
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Well I'm glad this season is over, and that we're pretty much set at QB for the next 15 years if Luck is as good as they say!

Some positives being that Angerer looks superb, Chris Rucker looks good for a rookie, and Donald Brown may not be a total bust after all if somebody fancies blocking for him!

There's a nasty rumour doing the rounds that we'll take RG3 instead, hopefully that's nonsense and we get Luck. I expect him to sit for a year before taking over in 2013 after learning from Manning for the year (and yes we do have cap room, it comes from having a truly awful secondary, I mean, Jacob Lacey is hardly on big bucks)
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I backed Megatron at 11/1 for most recieving yards at the start of the season, it wasn't looking good until his monster performance today, that's won me the bet!
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

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