Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:18 am  

Catalancs wrote:

Meatier was intended to cover the walkout at Charlton. Neither Laws nor Dowie have taken a Prem club down of course that will all change come the end of May.

Just checked. Dowie got Palace promoted to the PL and took them down the season after.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:20 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

Dowie was in charge of C.Palace when they got promotion in 2003/2004 and was still there when they got relegated the year after IIRC !?!

Very true.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:24 am  

Maybe they have hired Dowie to see if he still has bouncebackability ?

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:52 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

But Curbishley also has a recent history of shafting a club because everything didn't go his way. That's unlikely to endear him to any PL chairmen..

Has he, who ?

If you're on about West Ham, he quit in protest that Gianluca Nani in his 'football director' role and the board decided to sell McCartney & Ferdinand against his wishes when he had it stipulated in his contract that he dealt with all transfer activity. He gleaned alot of support from other Premiership for his actions, SAF being one.

He recently got paid his compensation didn't he, as I think he took them to court over it. They argued he'd walked out etc, I saw him on Goals On Sunday a while back, whilst he couldn't talk about the case, he was on about how having that hanging over him (the court case) had stopped him from getting positions (i'm not sure how).

He might be limited, as in, he's not the man to push you from 12th upwards, but man alive, if I was a Hull fan, I'd take Curbishley all day long, For Hull this year & next, getting to be a 12th - 15th placed league side would be fantastic, he could deliver that.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:41 pm  

JWP wrote:

Has he, who ?

If you're on about West Ham, he quit in protest that Gianluca Nani in his 'football director' role and the board decided to sell McCartney & Ferdinand against his wishes when he had it stipulated in his contract that he dealt with all transfer activity. He gleaned alot of support from other Premiership for his actions, SAF being one.

He recently got paid his compensation didn't he, as I think he took them to court over it. They argued he'd walked out etc, I saw him on Goals On Sunday a while back, whilst he couldn't talk about the case, he was on about how having that hanging over him (the court case) had stopped him from getting positions (i'm not sure how).

From my point of view, there is just a massive incompatibility between multi-millionaire football managers and employment tribunals. IMO employment tribunals are totally justified when we're talking about powerless employees being treated terribly by their supervisor or office manager, but totally out of place when we're talking about Premier League football managers who are earning 20 grand a week doing a job most of the world would kill for.

Kevin Keegan and Alan Curbishley have had their day in court, took their clubs for millions, IMO they now deserve for football to turn their backs on them and they can spend their ill-gotten gains however they wish.

He might be limited, as in, he's not the man to push you from 12th upwards, but man alive, if I was a Hull fan, I'd take Curbishley all day long, For Hull this year & next, getting to be a 12th - 15th placed league side would be fantastic, he could deliver that.

TBH I'd agree with you. Curbishley is clearly a superior manager to Dowie and Laws.

But if Curbishley and Keegan are willing to throw their dummies out of their pram at one club and take them for millions, what's going to stop them at the next club? Nothing. That's why other clubs won't go near them.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:09 pm  

Curbishley won't come North. That is the sole reason he isn't in either of the aforementioned jobs.

Besides, he seems happy in his 'tired platitudes' media role. Good for him, i say.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:40 pm  

Liverpool have turned up for their cup final again, Benitez will keep his job as long as they get this result every season

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:44 pm  

Big decision that. Definitely a foul but should it of been red? Was it outside the area? It's a hard one to judge. He was initially fouled outside the area but the foul continued into the area. Mascherano could easily of gone off as Valencia would surely of got a shot off.

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:46 pm  

It's been a cracking start

Re: More football chat : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:46 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Big decision that. Definitely a foul but should it of been red? Was it outside the area. It's a hard one to judge. He was initially fouled outside the area but the foul continued into the area. Mascherano could easily of gone off as Valencia would surely of got a shot off.

He dragged him back outside the area and then Valencia threw himself on the floor once he got inside the box, but it should have been a red so its swings and roundabouts I suppose!