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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:38 pm  
Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:
You want to blame Wise for Keegan going, but it should be Keegan you blame.

Kevin Keegan is a geordie legend. He's managed Newcastle to comparative success. He's managed England, Fulham and Citeh. If he cannot manage to win Ashley's ear to outmaneuver Wise then he's clearly not up to the job anyway. It was the same whine from Keegan over the England job. Sven managed to employ the assistant he wanted. Keegan complained that he wasn't allowed to employ his favoured assistant because he was too old.

Wise may have been a dreadful DoF. He may have stuck his nose in Keegan's business. He may have slept with half the team's wives. But ATEOTD he was only a Director of Football and he was basically only there because Ashley wanted him there.

You only want to blame Wise and Ashley because you cannot accept any blame to your main messiah.

I'm not surprised Shearer didn't want Wise still at the club because most managers don't want DoF's. But him getting Ashley to get rid of Wise doesn't mean all the blame of Keegan going can be placed on Dennis Wise. Keegan's a serial runner, if he didn't have this excuse he'd have found another one soon enough.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

All this 'messiah' stuff makes me laugh. It's a media mis-conception which gets blown completely out of proportion once idiots latch onto it.

Apart from the 12 year olds that get interviewed bouncing up and down outside Shearer's bar, the majority definately don't see Keegan as a messiah, they see him as someone who understands the fans, the club, and someone who had us playing decent football. That is the way it should have continued.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:39 pm  
Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:
You want to blame Wise for Keegan going, but it should be Keegan you blame.

Kevin Keegan is a geordie legend. He's managed Newcastle to comparative success. He's managed England, Fulham and Citeh. If he cannot manage to win Ashley's ear to outmaneuver Wise then he's clearly not up to the job anyway. It was the same whine from Keegan over the England job. Sven managed to employ the assistant he wanted. Keegan complained that he wasn't allowed to employ his favoured assistant because he was too old.

Wise may have been a dreadful DoF. He may have stuck his nose in Keegan's business. He may have slept with half the team's wives. But ATEOTD he was only a Director of Football and he was basically only there because Ashley wanted him there.

You only want to blame Wise and Ashley because you cannot accept any blame to your main messiah.

I'm not surprised Shearer didn't want Wise still at the club because most managers don't want DoF's. But him getting Ashley to get rid of Wise doesn't mean all the blame of Keegan going can be placed on Dennis Wise. Keegan's a serial runner, if he didn't have this excuse he'd have found another one soon enough.

:CLAP:

From what I've read of your posts recently, you've got the whole situation bang on from my viewpoint.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:40 pm  
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Apart from the 12 year olds that get interviewed bouncing up and down outside Shearer's bar, the majority definately don't see Keegan as a messiah, they see him as someone who understands the fans, the club, and someone who had us playing decent football. That is the way it should have continued.

We/He could have had that, but he took the easy way out.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:49 pm  
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Have you watched them play recently? They got the points on the board early doors but are very much in the mire now.


Where as you have been shi'ite all season?
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:52 pm  
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Where as you have been shi'ite all season?

Yep. And we're still only four points behind them.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:54 pm  
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Yep. And we're still only four points behind them.


three behind hull city :wink:
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: Mon May 04, 2009 9:56 pm  
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three behind hull city :wink:

Thankfully ahead of them on goal difference too.

Next weekend is huge. Our game against the smoggies is simply a must win.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 10:04 pm  
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Thankfully ahead of them on goal difference too.

Next weekend is huge. Our game against the smoggies is simply a must win.


whoever losses are relegated for sure
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: Mon May 04, 2009 10:15 pm  
So, Ash, with the big crunch game coming up, who would you like to see play? Formation and team, like.
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: Mon May 04, 2009 10:24 pm  
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So, Ash, with the big crunch game coming up, who would you like to see play? Formation and team, like.

If fit:

4-3-3
GK: Harper
RB: S.Taylor
CB: Beye
CB: Bassong
LB: Enrique
RCM: Jonas
CM: Guthrie
LCM: Lovenkrands
ST (hole): Owen
ST: Martins
ST: Viduka

Bench: Krul, Edgar, Coloccini, Duff, LuaLua, Carroll, Ranger

If Taylor and Enrique don't make it:

4-3-3
GK: Harper
RB: Beye
CB: Coloccini
CB: Bassong
LB: Duff
RCM: Jonas
CM: Guthrie
LCM: Lovenkrands
ST (hole): Owen
ST: Martins
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Bench: Krul, Edgar, Tozer, LuaLua, Smith, Carroll, Ranger
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