Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:19 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Can't take the credit for it, I'm afraid. Came from a couple of Liverpool supporting friends, but even the brother-in-law Toffee saw the funny side

Ok, I'll admit I had a chuckle, I just didn't want it to show Your in-laws obviously have some class too by the way

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:40 pm  

Dan_FC wrote:

Ok, I'll admit I had a chuckle, I just didn't want it to show Your in-laws obviously have some class too by the way

He seems like a decent lad and he's taken my sister to Goodison a few times. I suppose we should be grateful. He could have a thing for the other side of Stanley Park

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:52 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

He seems like a decent lad and he's taken my sister to Goodison a few times. I suppose we should be grateful. He could have a thing for the other side of Stanley Park

indeed, the thought of your sister being put through that side of the park makes my stomach turn - no-one should be put through that. He seems decent to me too, he's obviously got sense and is taking your sister on the right track - fair play to him

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:04 am  

Roddy B wrote:

I think it would be weird to see Tevez go, and, oddly, I don't think we ever seen the best of him. I was reading a quote a few weeks back (I can't remember who by) which was basically saying England has ruined Tevez, which I sort of agreed with. He works harder than he really should, he probably doesn't show as much ability as he has and I think the emphasis on work rate over here can have a negative effect on players. I remember Tevez at United where it seemed he was played mostly for his work rate, although he had a successful season there, he probably never shown them what he was truly capable of. Similarly at City, he's worked his nuts off when playing, but the player that left South America has changed massively, and I'm not too sure if I really like it.

I could maybe understand your point if Tevez had resembled a player with the skill of Berbatov or Van Persie when he was younger but he simply didn’t. Tevez has never had the technique and skill to be the player you are referring too. Adding hustle and bustle to his game has made him more effective.

England has made Tevez. When he first arrived he was a forward who was difficult to accommodate into a team. Now he is a player who you build a team around. He has developed into a genuine world class lone forward (IMO the hardest role to master in a football team). If he had not changed as a player, from the one that started off, he would not be regarded so highly.

I’m sorry but the last sentence of your post is cringeworthy.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:05 am  

Catalancs wrote:

Marca reporting Agüero to City.

Hope so.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:52 am  

Arturo Vidal to Juventus for €10.5m to €12m. If he's as good as Robbie says that's an absolute steal.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:05 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Hope so.

I must say, i've been impressed with City's handling of the situation. They've granted Tevez's wish and, if Aguero signs, gone out and bought an upgrade for the same price. I would find it even better if Aguero signs, no-one buys Tevez and Mancini sends him out with the reserves which is what he deserves.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:47 am  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I must say, i've been impressed with City's handling of the situation. They've granted Tevez's wish and, if Aguero signs, gone out and bought an upgrade for the same price. I would find it even better if Aguero signs, no-one buys Tevez and Mancini sends him out with the reserves which is what he deserves.

I don’t think he is an upgrade. I would like to think he is but I cannot see him being as effective this coming season than Tevez was in 2010/11. Aguero may end up the better player but if it wasn’t for the baggage, I would prefer to retain Tevez.

Corinthians have stated they are interested in signing Tevez at the start of 2012. If that means Tevez stays with City for a few months, thus allowing us to slowly introduce Aguero, then that would be ideal. However, I cannot see him being here from September onwards. He needs/wants to go. I don’t have an issue with that. I don’t expect players to show the same loyalty as fans.

However, I do think he was out of order on a number of occasions – e.g. showing disrespect towards Mancini after being substituted and handing in a transfer request in December.

I see that Joorabchian is now subtley changing the tone of his language and is also now making it look like City are forcing Tevez out because we are bringing in Aguero. So the rumours about Tevez wanting his ‘loyalty bonus’ wasn’t nonsense. Expecting a loyalty bonus after handing in two transfer requests in the past year? Not to mention that Joorabchian has said Tevez knocked back an offer of a wage increase as he wanted to leave so much. Be interesting to see who wins that case.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:14 pm  

Everton reject a £10m bid from Arsenal for Phil Jagielka.....

This is where Man City's heavy-handedness in the market will affect all the others.....Everton got 20 million plus out of City for Lescott and Jagielka is twice the player.

I'd imagine Everton will rightly hold out for about £25 million before getting into any sort of discussion with the Gunners, or anybody else.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:34 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Everton reject a £10m bid from Arsenal for Phil Jagielka.....
This is where Man City's heavy-handedness in the market will affect all the others.....Everton got 20 million plus out of City for Lescott and Jagielka is twice the player.
I'd imagine Everton will rightly hold out for about £25 million before getting into any sort of discussion with the Gunners, or anybody else.

Agree with what you're saying about clubs like City distorting the market but with City not interested in Jagielka will Everton be able to play that card with Wenger?
Lescott was never worth anything like what he went for. Everyone except the City board, a few City fans and his mum saw that. How much do you think Jagielka is worth in an honest market? I'd have said around £12 to be honest.