Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:23 am  

RexRyan wrote:

“I have news for you. We are the better team. We’re the big brother. People might say they are the big, bad Giants, but we are not the same old Jets. … To me, it seems clear that right now we are the better team and we are going to remain the better team for the next 10 years. Whether you like it or not, those are the facts, and that’s what’s going to happen. I know it’s going to happen because our style of football is different. We are going to take over the town whether the Giants like it or not, so those fans on the fence that like both teams are going to be Jets fans in the end. The truth is, if I am going to watch one game, I am going to see the Jets, without a doubt. We are better.”
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Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:37 am  

Arrogant Brady, cheating Belichick, overrated Welker, fat dirty Wilfork, Robert Kraft in those stupid shirts...

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of t0ssers.

The fact that this Patriots team made it to the SB sums up how poor the AFC has been this season IMO. I would take any of the 4 final teams in the NFC to have beaten them.

4 SB wins in 4 different decades. Outstanding achievement from our little brother Giants

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:59 am  

It was a great game that could have gone either way, I think the best team won it on the night without a doubt. The turning point was definately the Welker drop but it was by no means an easy one IMO. Thought our D was excellent apart from the 12 men on the field penalty which took away the fumble and resulted in the TD, it's literally luck of the draw with the forced fumbles that we couldn't recover, can never predict how a ball will bounce. We give up a load of yards but don't concede many points and with a few additions on Defense I can only see us improving next year.

That Manningham catch on the Giants last drive was superb, live I thought there was no way he got both feet down but after the 1st replay it was clear it was a catch, I called the play to let the Giants score at the end but 2 plays earlier, it was clear at that point we couldn't stop them so we could have saved a bit of extra time I thought.

Can't really complain about the result like I say I think the best team won but I did expect it to be more of a shootout and there to be more points. Watching as a fan at the time I could only see the mistakes we made but thinking about it afterwards it will go down as one of the best superbowls in a while IMO. Superbowls are no fun for losers though

Played Giants

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:12 am  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

The fact that this Patriots team made it to the SB sums up how poor the AFC has been this season IMO. I would take any of the 4 final teams in the NFC to have beaten them.

But still, it came down to the final minutes and a couple of big plays either way. The way some people have been talking, and some of the early media write ups I've seen, its about the end of an era, Brady not the player he was, Patriots disappointing etc, but this was a tight game that could have gone either way it's not like the Patriots got blasted off the park.

Basically it came down to the final 4 minutes and one big play that the Patriots didn't make...and one big play that the Giants did. The Giants deserve the win because of that but it could easily have gone the other way and then people would be talking about the Patriots being one of the greatest dynasties in history, asking this morning whether Brady was the greatest of all time.

If the NFC teams were so dominant over a weak AFC why didn't we get a 30 or 40 point thumping like the Redskins, 49ers or Cowboys used to dish out in the 80s and 90s!

Before the playoffs started I would have said the Superbowl was going to be Ravens v whoever won out of Packers v Saints. This year a lot of teams seemed to lose form in the postseason, the exceptions being the Giants and 49ers. I think the Ravens are a better team than the Patriots and they will be kicking themselves especially with an ageing side now as this was a great opportunity missed.

There's a bit of changing of the guard, I reckon next year the Packers and Saints are still going to be the teams to beat, with the 49ers, Lions and Giants as the other NFC contenders. The AFC could be more unpredictable, the Texans and Bills are emerging, the Steelers are declining, Ravens and Patriots might be approaching a downturn. Maybe the Chargers might do something next year.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:27 pm  

Someone had to come out and have a go at the receivers for turning into LeBron....it just happened to be Giselle of all people:

“You [need] to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball. My husband cannot [expletive] throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time,” she said in a video obtained by TheInsider.com. “I can’t believe they dropped the ball so many times.”

She has it spot on too, Welker had a chance to win the game and dropped an easy catch...then Branch dropped a 20+ yard gain to start the last drive, then Hernandez did the same.

Still can't believe Wes Welker of all people dropped that ball.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:45 pm  

I wouldn't say it was 'easy' personally, it was a catch he makes most of the time sure but it certainly wasn't easy given the pressure situation and the fact he was off balance because it was thrown behind him, ATEOTD if it wasn't for Welker chances are we wouldn't even be in the SB, he has been a beast all year.

We need to offer him a new contract before he enters free agency, there will be a hell of a lot of teams wanting to sign him. I reckon we will franchise him and try to sort a deal out after next season if not before.

As for Gisele she should stick to something she knows about like walking up and down and looking pretty

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:48 pm  

He had the ball in his hands and it popped out like a bar of soap, once he had both hands on the ball he should have kept hold of it, that's what Wes Welker does but he didn't last night even Collinsworth was surprised and came out with the rather daft "he makes that catch 100 times out of 100"

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:49 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Someone had to come out and have a go at the receivers for turning into LeBron....it just happened to be Giselle of all people:

She has it spot on too, Welker had a chance to win the game and dropped an easy catch...then Branch dropped a 20+ yard gain to start the last drive, then Hernandez did the same.

Still can't believe Wes Welker of all people dropped that ball.

Thought your gameplan was easy? Run's at 5 yards a pop, hurry up offence? Need to sack belichick and employ you. NASCAR defence did alright and the genius move Belichick made yesterday really paid off. Have you given us credit yet?

Stomped out......AGAIN.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:51 pm  

Thought it was a decent game overall, not great but it served up some great entertainment in that last quarter. First half was quite conservative and the overall pattern of the game was quite predictable i.e. it never really looked like either defense was going to stop the over offense. It felt more like each offense would keep going down the field until they made a mistake rather than the defense making a play. That's pretty much how it padded out for most of the game.

Second half was better but it was still strangely conservative given the respective qualities of both teams' passing brigades. I know injuries play a part but it's not like either team were facing ball hawking defense.

The turning point for me was defo that pass from Manning to Manningham. Absolutely pinpoint that was and not unlike the Tyree one in terms of it had to be thrown there and nowhere else lol. The kind of play that wins Super Bowls these days that.

That final Giants drive though perhaps highlighted a bit of a problem with both teams which was that neither had confidence in their defense to stop the other. Both believed they could go downfield and score if necessary. Now the Patriots didn't in the end but that silly stuff with the final touchdown took a bit away from the drama of what was effectively the game winning drive. I understand why it was done and whatnot but still.

Not as good as the 'imperfect season' Super Bowl because it didn't really have much drama in it until those final few minutes which made it feel like a basketball game i.e. whoever had the ball last would win. Still it was a climax worthy of winning a Super Bowl and we can't ask for more than that.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:08 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Against no marks like the Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles. Not one half decent QB amongst them and only a smattering of defensive talent. When Manning has done something more than toss up a fluke once I think we can mention him in the same sentence. Until then it's probably not worth embarrassing ourselves by trying to shoehorn him into such lofty status.


Eli Manning might have won Superbowl ring earlier than Elway, however so did Jeff Hostetler and without repetition he's unlikely to pass Simms as the best Giants QB in the post-Coryell era never mind Elway.

Love it. Of course, he was crap this week as well. I don't know how he does it.