Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:57 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

You have got to be joking surely!

No Kicker is worth a 2nd round pick. Only wierd Al is willing to spend that much, well a first round pick, on a kicker. I wouldn't give more than a 3rd or 4th for any kicker.

So your telling me that teams that have struggled to win games because they dont have reliable kickers wouldnt give a 2nd round pick for one of the most accurate kickers in the league?

It would be a high price to pay but its well worth it if you get a player that can win you games IMO!!

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:08 pm  

This just made me LOL http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/03/jets-te ... ble-offer/ So let me get this straight the Jets think hes worth a first rounder and a second rounder and then anyone stupid enough would have to still pay him $5 million GUFFAW

This just made me LOL http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/03/jets-te ... ble-offer/ So let me get this straight the Jets think hes worth a first rounder and a second rounder and then anyone stupid enough would have to still pay him $5 million GUFFAW

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:14 pm  

LFCRhino wrote: So your telling me that teams that have struggled to win games because they dont have reliable kickers wouldnt give a 2nd round pick for one of the most accurate kickers in the league? It would be a high price to pay but its well worth it if you get a player that can win you games IMO!! Yes i'm telling you that. Brandon Marshall has been placed with a round 1 tender. Jared Gaither has been placed with a round 1 tender. Your telling me that a kicker (who sees the field what 4 or 5 times a game maximum) is only worth one round less than one of the best recievers and left tackles in the game. No kicker is worth anything more than a round 3 or more likely round 4 pick. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. LFCRhino wrote: This just made me LOL http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/03/jets-te ... ble-offer/ So let me get this straight the Jets think hes worth a first rounder and a second rounder and then anyone stupid enough would have to still pay him $5 million GUFFAW Maybe the Jets want to keep him, hence tendering him so high.

LFCRhino wrote: So your telling me that teams that have struggled to win games because they dont have reliable kickers wouldnt give a 2nd round pick for one of the most accurate kickers in the league? It would be a high price to pay but its well worth it if you get a player that can win you games IMO!! Yes i'm telling you that. Brandon Marshall has been placed with a round 1 tender. Jared Gaither has been placed with a round 1 tender. Your telling me that a kicker (who sees the field what 4 or 5 times a game maximum) is only worth one round less than one of the best recievers and left tackles in the game. No kicker is worth anything more than a round 3 or more likely round 4 pick. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. LFCRhino wrote: This just made me LOL http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/03/jets-te ... ble-offer/ So let me get this straight the Jets think hes worth a first rounder and a second rounder and then anyone stupid enough would have to still pay him $5 million GUFFAW Maybe the Jets want to keep him, hence tendering him so high.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:18 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Yes i'm telling you that. Brandon Marshall has been placed with a round 1 tender. Jared Gaither has been placed with a round 1 tender. Your telling me that a kicker (who sees the field what 4 or 5 times a game maximum) is only worth one round less than one of the best recievers and left tackles in the game.

No kicker is worth anything more than a round 3 or more likely round 4 pick. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Well I disagree, not the first time and wont be the last Im sure

ST_CONROY wrote:

Maybe the Jets want to keep him, hence tendering him so high.

Its not suprising they seem to be a team thats happy to have mediocre recievers

and all this after releasing their best RB

I have to say though Im pretty happy they are not sorting out their terrible WR core, they could become better a lot quicker if they just sorted this out and could become a real threat, but Im happy for them to just make the play-offs every so often and so are they by the looks of it!!

Maybe they can sign Laveranues Coles again now that hes been released

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:03 pm  

If someone signs a player that's been tendered which years draft is the pick that they give up,this year or next year?

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:28 am  

DAR130 wrote:

If someone signs a player that's been tendered which years draft is the pick that they give up,this year or next year?

This year I think you have to give up if you have one. What happen if you don't have one this year I'm not sure.

I hope to god we go after Gaither. He is excellent and only 24. To be able to get such a good LT for just a 1st is a bargain. He can protect Rodgers for years.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:33 am  

Cromartie traded to the Jets for a 2011 draft pick

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:03 am  

The Bears look like they may be busy in this free agency with them talking to Chester Taylor, Julius Peppers, Antrel Rolle and Brandon Manumaleuna already...........

There seems to be a lot of CB`s getting released, is there a lot of CB depth in the draft? I dont follow it that closely!

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:10 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Cromartie traded to the Jets for a 2011 draft pick

The pick will be a round 2 or 3 depndant on performance (not sure whether it's performance of the team or player). So worst case a 3rd. That's the best the Chargers could've possibly got I think, everyone knew they wanted shut.

The more surprising news coming out of Charger Park is that Jamal Williams has been released (although they're trying to work on a contract) and they have had a change of heart on Darren Sproles - tendered for round 1 and 3 picks. That means he'll make over $7m next year.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:17 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

The Bears look like they may be busy in this free agency with them talking to Chester Taylor, Julius Peppers, Antrel Rolle and Brandon Manumaleuna already...........

There seems to be a lot of CB`s getting released, is there a lot of CB depth in the draft? I dont follow it that closely!

Not especially. Joe Haden is the number 1 CB in the draft. He's from Flordia and is worthy of a top 10 pick. The next one behind him is probably Kyle Wilson, of Boise State who will go in the 1st round. He has an amazing bus, google it!

Behind them two, you have a pretty solid bunch who probably wouldn't be ready to start straight away, but have potential to be very good NFL players. A good mid round pick up would be Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - I certainly hope he lands in SD.