Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:12 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I want us to go after a few players but some of these contracts are ridiculous, and i'm quite happy to have a GM who won't rush things.

Rolle the highest paid ever safety. More than Sanders, Polamalu, Reed? Scandalous.

Dansby likewise.

To be fair stuff like this happens every year. Didn't Stafford get the biggest QB contract ever, in guaranteed money, last year? These contracts go up year on year. Isn't Peyton Manning about to blow everything out of the water this offseason? No doubt his deal will then be trumped next offseason. Throw in that these guys are FA's and the salary gets even a little bit more on it. Interested to see if we make any more FA moves other than AJ Feeley.

Looks like Big Ben has been a naughty boy.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:50 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

could end up at the Giants or somewhere decent.

Nice try.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:28 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

To be fair stuff like this happens every year. Didn't Stafford get the biggest QB contract ever, in guaranteed money, last year? These contracts go up year on year. Isn't Peyton Manning about to blow everything out of the water this offseason? No doubt his deal will then be trumped next offseason. Throw in that these guys are FA's and the salary gets even a little bit more on it. Interested to see if we make any more FA moves other than AJ Feeley.

Oh yeah definately. It's just a process these days, each player at each position is going to try and get the highest at that position every year, and a lot of times they get it.

I'm just glad that generally we stay clear of it all. It can lead to serious cap implications down the line. Take Carolina. They are paying $12 million next year for Delhomme and another player they signed whos name i can't remember and neither are on the team anymore.

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Looks like Big Ben has been a naughty boy.

Whether he has done it this time or last time or not at all you have to question his judgement for getting in situations where he can be accused of things like that.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:30 pm  

Jint wrote:

Nice try.

In all honesty it wasn't intentional....but it worked out quite well.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:51 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I'm just glad that generally we stay clear of it all. It can lead to serious cap implications down the line. Take Carolina. They are paying $12 million next year for Delhomme and another player they signed whos name i can't remember and neither are on the team anymore.

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How do you work that out? Hes been released and theres no salary cap anyway !!

Is the other player a wide reciever though I think I know who you may mean but I cant think of his name either?

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:03 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

No their not hes been released and theres no salary cap !!

Is the other player a wide reciever though I think I know who you may mean but I cant think of his name either?

I believe they will still be paying him won't they? My understanding is they take the hit this year and avoid any carry over should the 2011 season have a salary cap. Be aware that this may be complete rubbish. Where will he end up? If nothing else he could do a job as an experienced backup.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:08 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

I believe they will still be paying him won't they? My understanding is they take the hit this year and avoid any carry over should the 2011 season have a salary cap. Be aware that this may be complete rubbish. Where will he end up? If nothing else he could do a job as an experienced backup.

Im not sure they do have to pay him anything other than his guarenteed money from the contract he signed last year?

I dont see him being a starter anywhere probably just a backup like you say

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:16 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Im not sure they do have to pay him anything other than his guarenteed money from the contract he signed last year?

I dont see him being a starter anywhere probably just a backup like you say

NFL.com article about him says,

Delhomme, 35, holds almost every Panthers passing record, but cutting him during a season without a salary cap will save some of the hit that his contract will have in future years should the cap return.

So this option gives them the smallest hit in the long run. When you look at that deal he signed you have to wonder what the Panthers were thinking, $42.5mil($20mil guaranteed) over 5 years for a 34 year old who has had injury problems. So if they are paying $12mil this year then they only have $8mil over the next 3 years.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:26 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

NFL.com article about him says,

Delhomme, 35, holds almost every Panthers passing record, but cutting him during a season without a salary cap will save some of the hit that his contract will have in future years should the cap return.

So this option gives them the smallest hit in the long run. When you look at that deal he signed you have to wonder what the Panthers were thinking, $42.5mil($20mil guaranteed) over 5 years for a 34 year old who has had injury problems. So if they are paying $12mil this year then they only have $8mil over the next 3 years.

I just watched a video on the NFL site that said he had $19 million guaranteed and he was owed $12 million still which hes been paid now after his release so they dont owe him anything, so theres no damage to their salary cap.

IMHO the salary cap wont be back for a long time(at least 2 years) so it probably doesnt matter anyway in the long run.

It was a silly contract he was given like you say especially coming of the back of a bad playoff game and all his injurys, I remember laughing at the time and thinking it had been typed up wrong or something

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:47 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Im not sure they do have to pay him anything other than his guarenteed money from the contract he signed last year?

I dont see him being a starter anywhere probably just a backup like you say

He'd be great in New York. David Carr will probably sign elsewhere. He would be a good fit in St Louis as a scapegoat till Bradford or Clausen are ready.