: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:29 pm  

The Nihilist wrote:

Say what you like about The money man, but he is awesome. Marquez was always going to be a fight he would win, especially at that weight.

If he can win his next few fights (probably against Cotto, Pac, and Mosley) then he would probably be ranked as one of the best 7 or 8 fighters ever.

Who do you rate better than him at present?, I'm just asking because i have an Interest in Boxing but have never been an avid fan. I think Mayweather is already on his way to being classed as being one of the greatest (Just My Personal Opinion) i mean Six World Boxing Championships in Five Different Weight Classes means you are quite Phenomenal and the way he looks so at ease in a boxing ring is unbelievable i like everything about the guy, Agreed though to take out 2/3 of the names mentioned then he'd definitely be in the Top 10 IMO...
Who would be your No1 because Sugar Ray Robinson is generally considered the Greatest Fighter of All-Time.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:23 pm  

The problem I see is Pacquaio has the speed, but is he big enough? I think he could potentially cause problems as he has more power than Marquez, but like Marquez his best weight is 130-135lbs.

Mosley is the right size and if he nails Mayweather he could knock him out, but he's not quick enough for me.

For me Mayweather, as boring as he is to watch at times, is brilliant and I just can#t see anyone beating him.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:26 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

For me Mayweather, as boring as he is to watch at times, is brilliant and I just can#t see anyone beating him.

How can you seriously say Mayweather is boring???... .....His only fault is that he is simply too good for his often outclassed opponent, thus turning the bout into a one-sided affair, which I suppose then strips the fight of its excitement.

Boring though, he isn't. The guy is pure boxing, he has perfected the art of defence to a tee and some of his combinations are a joy to watch.

There is simply nobody out there who can beat him...Pacquaio, though a top fighter, would simply be chasing shadows and probably wouldn't have the power to dent Mayweather's defences.

It may sound odd, but for a more even contest, I'd like to see Cotto take on Mayweather rather than Pacman....Cotto is more Mayweather's weight equal, something Pacquaio and Marquez aren't....Mayweather would still win, but I just feel Cotto would pose more of a threat.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:32 pm  

The Angry Pirate wrote:

How can you seriously say Mayweather is boring???... .....His only fault is that he is simply too good for his often outclassed opponent, thus turning the bout into a one-sided affair, which I suppose then strips the fight of its excitement.

You've answered your own question there. He is a defensive fighter and it's difficult to break him down. The problem I have with Mayweather is even when he's dominating the fight and landing good shots he's not overly bothered about knocking a guy out like Pacquiao would be for example. He's a safe fighter first and foremost and that makes his fights a little boring at times.

The Angry Pirate wrote:

It may sound odd, but for a more even contest, I'd like to see Cotto take on Mayweather rather than Pacman....Cotto is more Mayweather's weight equal, something Pacquaio and Marquez aren't....Mayweather would still win, but I just feel Cotto would pose more of a threat.

I love Cotto, he's a very good boxer, but I just feel he isn't quick enough to land enough punches to beat Mayweather. He's definitely got the power though.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:19 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

I love Cotto, he's a very good boxer, but I just feel he isn't quick enough to land enough punches to beat Mayweather. He's definitely got the power though.

The problem about not being quick enough probably applies to any contender out there to be honest.....Cotto is probably the best equipped of those contenders, so it would be good just to see how he would get on.

Margarito would have been a fascinating opponent too, though the problems surrounding him has certainly blighted his reputation.

I'm certainly not Amir Khan's biggest fan either, but the recent change in style that Khan has adopted would also be a good match up against Mayweather, as Roach has finally got through to Khan that boxing isn't just about standing toe to toe in the middle of the ring..... I just hope that Ricky Hatton isn't tempted to take on Khan, as I fear his already damaged reputation might suffer another knock and that would be sad to go out on a domestic defeat.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:22 pm  

Margarito is one dimensional. Mosley bitchslapped him and so did Cotto for 6 rounds. Mayweather would torture him for 12 rounds.

As for Khan, he's got a great future ahead of him, but he's not even close to Mayweather. He still makes mistakes and Mayweather would pick up on that quickly.

The best three contenders IMO are Pacquaio, Mosley and Cotto. I'd still back Mayweather against all three.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:29 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

As for Khan, he's got a great future ahead of him, but he's not even close to Mayweather. He still makes mistakes and Mayweather would pick up on that quickly.

The best three contenders IMO are Pacquaio, Mosley and Cotto. I'd still back Mayweather against all three.

I agree entirely, though my point about Khan's style was more about the style of fighting, than Khan himself, actually being the threat to Mayweather ...(if you get my confusing drift??!!??).

I'm not entirely sure it would be an entertaining fight either, with both fighters looking to box on the counter, protecting their respective chins. (Especially Khan, who we all know can be tagged).

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:31 pm  

Khan is more like Pacquaio in style and mentality though. He is an attacking boxer by nature, whereas Mayweather is a defensive counter puncher.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:35 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

Khan is more like Pacquaio in style and mentality though. He is an attacking boxer by nature, whereas Mayweather is a defensive counter puncher.

Yes, but Roach seems to have convinced Khan to rein that in a bit.... There certainly isn't anymore gung-ho, chin-in-the-air stuff anymore, and I reckon IF (and its a big if) Khan & Mayweather ever met, Roach would drill it into him even more that safety first is paramount, especially early on.

: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:21 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

The problem I see is Pacquaio has the speed, but is he big enough? I think he could potentially cause problems as he has more power than Marquez, but like Marquez his best weight is 130-135lbs.

Mosley is the right size and if he nails Mayweather he could knock him out, but he's not quick enough for me.

For me Mayweather, as boring as he is to watch at times, is brilliant and I just can#t see anyone beating him.

I agree, the only person who will beat Floyd is Floyd, still he has a couple of interesting fights ahead of him. The commentator after the fight was shocking, anyone would think he was the star attraction!