: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:51 pm  

So it seems Newcastle are going to be on tele EVERY game they play this year then are they...?

: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:51 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

So it seems Newcastle are going to be on tele EVERY game they play this year then are they...?

No, we aren't.

: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:52 pm  

D.D. wrote:

I think you are the only one that's deluded if you believe all that crap.

Listen pal, I go to Old Trafford once a year, which is traditionally once more than you ( ), I have seen these things with my own eyes on several occasions and I am telling you what happens, not offering an opinion.

A significant amount of United fans, before, after and during games, next to the away end, have done mock aeroplane actions with no provocation, in an attempt to goad our fans into doing it.

If you don't believe me, call a solicitor in and sue me for slander. You won't get very far.

You musn't have much time for watching the game if you can watch the entire away end to make sure if they aren't 'provoking' the Utd fans into doing aeroplane gestures.

: Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:04 pm  

Football season back. Any enjoyable reasoned debate on here over the past few weeks has gone out the window to petty arguments.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:40 am  

Ski wrote:

Football season back. Any enjoyable reasoned debate on here over the past few weeks has gone out the window to petty arguments.

Why don't you just do one then?*

*sorry, couldn't resist.

I'll talk about football - ESPN aren't messing about are they? To my knowledge they have the following leagues LIVE:-

English
Monkey Tennis (Scotland)
Italy
Portugal
Russia
Holland
France (maybe)
Germany

It's now worth that 100 quid a year or whatever it is.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:46 am  

Ian [77] wrote:

Why don't you just do one then?*

*sorry, couldn't resist.

I'll talk about football - ESPN aren't messing about are they? To my knowledge they have the following leagues LIVE:-

Monkey Tennis (Scotland)
Italy
Portugal
Russia
Holland

It's now worth that 100 quid a year or whatever it is.

TBH I honestly don't find these leagues interesting at all. Serie A was interesting but has gone downhill. The Eredivisie is shocking IMO.

I'd happily watch the Prem, German, Spanish and, occasionally, the French leagues, but that's about it.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:46 am  

Karlos13 wrote:

You musn't have much time for watching the game if you can watch the entire away end to make sure if they aren't 'provoking' the Utd fans into doing aeroplane gestures.

TBH mate, I have heard from a Chelsea fan and a Leeds fan that this goes on.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:00 am  

Ian [77] wrote:

Why don't you just do one then?*

*sorry, couldn't resist.

I'll talk about football - ESPN aren't messing about are they? To my knowledge they have the following leagues LIVE:-

English
Monkey Tennis (Scotland)
Italy
Portugal
Russia
Holland
France (maybe)
Germany

It's now worth that 100 quid a year or whatever it is.

Not forgetting the biggest powerhouse in world football; the MLS.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:05 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

TBH mate, I have heard from a Chelsea fan and a Leeds fan that this goes on.

Must be true then.

Karl's spot on with what he said. It's been a while since Dave has come out with his "United fans goad people into singing Munich" line, though, so it's no shock. What's next? Telling us how most city fans do it because it's pointing out that United as a club milk the disaster? Or denying that two thirds of the city end sang "who's that dying..." at Old Trafford a few years ago? At least I can admit that, on that occasion, they were goaded. Albeit by K Stand singing "Alfie how's your leg", nothing to do with Munich.

They're not known as liars for nothing.

: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:31 am  

GT wrote:

Must be true then.

Mate, that's a silly thing to say. You are saying that a United fan is more likely to tell the truth (about an accusation made against United fans than Liverpool, Leeds and City supporters. I'd trust three unreliable sources over one solitary unrealiable source.

Telling us how most city fans do it because it's pointing out that United as a club milk the disaster?

You will get some Blues singing "Town full of Munichs" (at away games) and "Carlos Tevez is a Blue...He hates Munichs" (recently). Now I have not sang those songs, and neither will I do in the future. I believe it to be disrespectful. IMO a number of City fans perform these chants because they do believe United milked the disaster. Munich is a term that has stuck. If you talk to Blues on read City forums, you will find the majority think it is unnacceptable to make any reference to Munich. Believe me, when references are made to Munich during games, the City forums go ballistic. The vast majority of City fans will not refer to Munich in any chant or song.

Those who chant about the actual disaster, are simply offensive, and make such chants because they are...pathetic...what else can I say?

Maybe I am hypocritical. I mock scousers re 'self-pity city' etc.. Now people, including United fans and supporters from other clubs, including City, use this to mock scousers for, let's say, over-doing it with memorials, funderals etc.. This could include Heysel and Hillsbrough (from my own point of view, it relates more to Ken Bigley etc..). Is referring to Liverpool as 'self-pity city', and mocking scousers for this, more acceptable than City fans chanting "Carlos Tevez is a Blue...."?

Or denying that two thirds of the city end sang "who's that dying..." at Old Trafford a few years ago? At least I can admit that, on that occasion, they were goaded. Albeit by K Stand singing "Alfie how's your leg", nothing to do with Munich.

What point are you trying to make here? What does it matter whether or not it is to do with Munich? You lot hissed at Spurs fans two years ago (missus was pregnant last year so din't go). This was on Holocaust Memorial Day. On this occasion, would it be okay for Spurs fans to sing about Munich? Deary me.