: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:00 pm  

De la hoya will probably get more money? Manny is a massive draw of course but I think de la hoya will get him a bit more money in the bank.. and i fancy oscar to win on saturday.

manny v hatton would be an awesome fight and id LOVE to see it happen!

: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:10 pm  

'Juice' Terry wrote:

Come on pac-man.

I think De la hoya will be too big for him on the night though.

Same here, can see Manny shaking him up a bit though.

: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:36 pm  

Been having an argument with a mate of mine. Where does DLH rank in the list of all-time greats. Personally I think he's overrated, yes he's beaten some decent champions but Whitiker was robbed and Julio Ceaser Chavez was about 90 when he beat him. Plus he never really dominated in one division for a sustained period, which I think is one of the essential criteria when wanting to be considered an ATG. Plus most damning of all IMO is the fact that whenever he's come up against fellow greats at their peaks (Mosley twice, Trinidad, Mayweather, Hopkins) he's been beaten, some of his defeats were close but not that close.

: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:41 pm  

John D H wrote:

Been having an argument with a mate of mine. Where does DLH rank in the list of all-time greats. Personally I think he's overrated, yes he's beaten some decent champions but Whitiker was robbed and Julio Ceaser Chavez was about 90 when he beat him. Plus he never really dominated in one division for a sustained period, which I think is one of the essential criteria when wanting to be considered an ATG. Plus most damning of all IMO is the fact that whenever he's come up against fellow greats at their peaks (Mosley twice, Trinidad, Mayweather, Hopkins) he's been beaten, some of his defeats were close but not that close. Not to mention his win against Whitiker is very very debatable.

That is a definate sign you are rambling.

: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:43 pm  

On the fight... I think is Pacman can get past the first 4 or 5 rounds he has a chance. There is a chance DLH could be weight-drained and lack the stamina to go the distance.

: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:46 pm  

EL CAMO wrote:

That is a definate sign you are rambling.

What do you mean?

: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:53 pm  

John D H wrote:

Been having an argument with a mate of mine. Where does DLH rank in the list of all-time greats. Personally I think he's overrated, yes he's beaten some decent champions but Whitiker was robbed and Julio Ceaser Chavez was about 90 when he beat him. Plus he never really dominated in one division for a sustained period, which I think is one of the essential criteria when wanting to be considered an ATG. Plus most damning of all IMO is the fact that whenever he's come up against fellow greats at their peaks (Mosley twice, Trinidad, Mayweather, Hopkins) he's been beaten, some of his defeats were close but not that close.

Has has been World Champion at 6 different weights though isn't he? (Not agreeing or disagreeing BTW)

: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:03 am  

General Zod. wrote:

Has has been World Champion at 6 different weights though isn't he? (Not agreeing or disagreeing BTW)

He has and he will rightly be remembered as a great. But he can't be regarded as "true great" for the reasons I mentioned above.

: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:41 am  

What time is the fight expected to start ?

Just im at work till 3 and want to get to Casino in time for it.

: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:24 pm  

Superbowl Scott wrote:

What time is the fight expected to start ?

Just im at work till 3 and want to get to Casino in time for it.

Around 4am.

Some good fights on Saturday with Amir Kahn returning after his knockout defeat and Carl Froch fighting for the World Title.