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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:50 am  
Wonder if Fergie will try for Adam in the summer, some rumours about it today?
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:04 am  
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I just don't think Blackpool wanted to sell their star player, they build there whole team around him and they didn't want to sell. Obviously he put a transfer request in and was prepared to leave but he hasn't gone kicking and screaming and was probably prepared to stay there too.

I've not seen too much of Suarez in Holland, It's not very well shown here is it, apart from some ESPN games but I've seen enough of him to know he's got the potential to have a big impact over here but if Torres had stayed it would've given Suarez time to settle and get used to the league for 6 months whereas now there's a lot of pressure on considering Carroll won't be fit for a few months at least.

Both of these moves prove the loyalty in football has gone out of the window now, two players who are supposed to be playing for the clubs they support and yet they've both turned their backs on them without a second thought and worst of all the they've just fooked off on the clubs supporters. Still, it could've been worse, you have at least made signings and replaced outgoing players. I think both will prove their worth to the club, I just wonder whether the loss of Torres will hurt the team for a while to come.


Apparently Spurs had a £6.5m-£7m accepted for Adam, we bid that the other day and it was rejected. I think they did want to sell Charlie, Holloway was urging us to sign him in his presser the other day, thing is, they were stuck with what to do. The realistic fee was about £8m, he will go for half that in the summer with only 12 months on his deal left by then, but the risk of relegation forced them to ask for upwards of £10m, which was never going to happen, not from us, not from United or Spurs.

As for Suarez, I watched him a few years ago for Ajax as I was fascinated by Huntelaar's scoring record at Heerenveen, so always tried to see him for Ajax. Always thought he looked good on the left of their 4-3-3, and felt it was only a matter of time before he was their best player. I think Suarez is a good player, an excellent finisher with enough about himself to create his own shots in tight situations, but I didn't think he'd be any good for us if we were to play him with Torres (many will have read that before, I'm pretty consistent), but now he's playing with Carroll, his signing makes so much more sense, IMO. Carroll will bring so much to the team that Luis needs, he will be a great foil for him, IMO.

I feel the loss of Torres will affect us initially, particularly with Carroll out injured, but once he returns and we have that 'handful' leading the line, we'll eventually start to see progress. The other players will take a while to adjust, we built everything around Torres so everything will be different from now on, but with Kenny in charge, I'm confident the players will support the change.

Just another note, the apparent United interest, from what was mooted on Twitter on occasions, came from Blackpool due to the sheer desperate lengths they were going to try and force Liverpool to up their bid. I'm sure we all know that if Fergie wanted him, he'd have got him in about an hour.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:57 am  
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You must be gutted tonight though, mate, I would be. You've just sold, in your words, the most complete number 9 in Europe IIRC, a proven Premier League goalscorer who's just coming back into form


Who wanted to leave, who couldn't be persuaded to stay.

and you've replaced him with an injured front man from Newcastle who's yet to prove his worth in either Championship or Premier League and a forward from the Dutch league who's again unproven for £20 million plus, not a good day.[/quote]

Not a good day would be buying nobody. At the end of the window we have replaced Torres and Babel with Carroll and Suarez. The money for me, doesn't come into it, it's isn't mine, so I don't care. The owners haven't said there's only x amount to spend. This time last year we were funding yearly debts of approximately £35m and making profits in the transfer window, this year we are not. Not happy? have a look in the mirror. :wink:

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Chelsea must be delighted with today, they've solved two of their big problems by bringing in a world class striker/goalscorer and a defender to shore up their backline. Two really good signings, title challenge back on?


Of course they are, as I said earlier, it's not their (fans) money, so like most fans they don't care less what a player cost. Torres can be a great signing for them, be intersting to see where they go from here with Drogba, Anelka and Torres and I can't see them all starting. As for Luiz, don't know much about him, but strange how you feel he's a really good signing yet Suarez is "unproven" for £20m plus. Last I heard neither had played in the Prem.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:11 am  
If Hodgson was still there and Torres left, I guarantee he'd have been blamed and slated for wasting 35 million on Carroll.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:32 am  
Interesting quotes flying around , carroll 'gutted' at being 'forced out the door'

Torres delighted to achieve his ambition to play for 'a top level club'

Will be interesting to see how all this pans out , and whether united will rue sitting on their hands.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:36 am  
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Interesting quotes flying around , carroll 'gutted' at being 'forced out the door'

Torres delighted to achieve his ambition to play for 'a top level club'

Will be interesting to see how all this pans out , and whether united will rue sitting on their hands.



Only a centre midfielder we'd be interested in. We get Park back and Valencia back in a few weeks, there like two new signings. Also with the added bonus that Gibson won't be anywhere near the team when all fit.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:39 am  
The Andy Carroll song was just txt to me. Awful.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:41 am  
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Only a centre midfielder we'd be interested in. We get Park back and Valencia back in a few weeks, there like two new signings. Also with the added bonus that Gibson won't be anywhere near the team when all fit.


Might take Valencia a bit to get back to form after a serious injury like that
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:44 am  
It's hours after the window closed, Spurs must have just signed someone...
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:09 am  
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Only a centre midfielder we'd be interested in. We get Park back and Valencia back in a few weeks, there like two new signings. Also with the added bonus that Gibson won't be anywhere near the team when all fit.



I'll be please see those two back, as for Gibson I really don't understand what Fergie see's in him.
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