Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:12 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Apparently Spurs had a £6.5m-£7m accepted for Adam, we bid that the other day and it was rejected. I think they did want to sell Charlie, Holloway was urging us to sign him in his presser the other day, thing is, they were stuck with what to do. The realistic fee was about £8m, he will go for half that in the summer with only 12 months on his deal left by then, but the risk of relegation forced them to ask for upwards of £10m, which was never going to happen, not from us, not from United or Spurs.

As for Suarez, I watched him a few years ago for Ajax as I was fascinated by Huntelaar's scoring record at Heerenveen, so always tried to see him for Ajax. Always thought he looked good on the left of their 4-3-3, and felt it was only a matter of time before he was their best player. I think Suarez is a good player, an excellent finisher with enough about himself to create his own shots in tight situations, but I didn't think he'd be any good for us if we were to play him with Torres (many will have read that before, I'm pretty consistent), but now he's playing with Carroll, his signing makes so much more sense, IMO. Carroll will bring so much to the team that Luis needs, he will be a great foil for him, IMO.

I feel the loss of Torres will affect us initially, particularly with Carroll out injured, but once he returns and we have that 'handful' leading the line, we'll eventually start to see progress. The other players will take a while to adjust, we built everything around Torres so everything will be different from now on, but with Kenny in charge, I'm confident the players will support the change.

Just another note, the apparent United interest, from what was mooted on Twitter on occasions, came from Blackpool due to the sheer desperate lengths they were going to try and force Liverpool to up their bid. I'm sure we all know that if Fergie wanted him, he'd have got him in about an hour.

I rate Suarez, he reminds me of Fowler as a finisher and he should form a good partnership with Carroll. The question is will Carroll score enough goals, maybe not 20 a season but Suarez should ceertainly do that so as a partnership I would expect them to get around 40-45 a season. This will means Liverpool going back to a 4-4-2 so the one question is who will Liverpool play wide? I am guessing Kuyt and Cole with Gerrard/Merieles in the centre?

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:20 am  

Excellent ambition shown again by us.

Not having a too bad season, for first season back in the Premiership.

Sell our best striker and replace him with...

Nobody.

Fantastic management.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:37 am  

OoOGazOoO wrote:

Excellent ambition shown again by us.

Not having a too bad season, for first season back in the Premiership.

Sell our best striker and replace him with...

Nobody.

Fantastic management.

Gutted as well, but that is a hell of a lot of money for a relatively unproven player (compared to more established strikers). If I was in charge I probably would have found it too tempting to refuse to be honest, he can (hopefully) be replaced with a decent striker + one or two other players.

Still wish it didn't have to happen though, no doubt Torres will be kissing the Chelski badge in no time, blame them as much as anyone for the demise of English football.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:34 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

Both of these moves prove the loyalty in football has gone out of the window now, two players who are supposed to be playing for the clubs they support and yet they've both turned their backs on them without a second thought and worst of all the they've just fooked off on the clubs supporters.

Loyalty went out of the window years ago, it was not reliant on these two deals. How many real one club men have there been since the Sky/Premiership era started?

Giggs, Scholes and G.Neville? How long would they have stayed for if Utd had not been successful? Carragher also.

Its easy as a fan to get carried away and really believe that the players really love your club and would die for it. But the harsh fact is that they are employees thats all. And just like us if someone offered you 2/3 times your salary for doing the same job, we would be away like a shot.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:38 am  

PAUL M wrote:

I rate Suarez, he reminds me of Fowler as a finisher and he should form a good partnership with Carroll. The question is will Carroll score enough goals, maybe not 20 a season but Suarez should ceertainly do that so as a partnership I would expect them to get around 40-45 a season. This will means Liverpool going back to a 4-4-2 so the one question is who will Liverpool play wide? I am guessing Kuyt and Cole with Gerrard/Merieles in the centre?

.........Carroll
Suarez........Gerrard
........Merieles
Lucas..........Poulsen (:()
Johnson..Agger..Skirtel..Kelly

If Carroll is not playing, then i would expect Kuyt to be up top.

These should be able to hold the ball up and bring the 3 attacking players in behind him

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:54 am  

PAUL M wrote:

I rate Suarez, he reminds me of Fowler as a finisher and he should form a good partnership with Carroll. The question is will Carroll score enough goals, maybe not 20 a season but Suarez should ceertainly do that so as a partnership I would expect them to get around 40-45 a season. This will means Liverpool going back to a 4-4-2 so the one question is who will Liverpool play wide? I am guessing Kuyt and Cole with Gerrard/Merieles in the centre?

Think we may go 4-3-3 or whatever you want to call it, given Suarez has played on the left in that system for Ajax in the past.

Rumour had it we were in for Ashley Young, maybe we'll go back in for him in the summer with his contract winding down, but the need for a decent crosser is obvious now we have Carroll.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:58 am  

flipper wrote:

Interesting quotes flying around , carroll 'gutted' at being 'forced out the door'

Torres delighted to achieve his ambition to play for 'a top level club'

Will be interesting to see how all this pans out , and whether united will rue sitting on their hands.

Being just the teeniest bit anti-Liverpool, it is funny that the new Liverpool record signing is making noises about how he didn't want the move and Torres is flicking the V's at them.

But I do think that both of them have been out of order.

But then, so was Joe Cole.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:08 am  

Roofs wrote:

Gutted as well, but that is a hell of a lot of money for a relatively unproven player (compared to more established strikers). If I was in charge I probably would have found it too tempting to refuse to be honest, he can (hopefully) be replaced with a decent striker + one or two other players.

Still wish it didn't have to happen though, no doubt Torres will be kissing the Chelski badge in no time, blame them as much as anyone for the demise of English football.

He can be, but wont.

Another transfer window, and another one of profit for Ashley.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:33 am  

Anyone elses Tottenham/ Hawwy Wedknapp hate-ometer hit new levels of hateness?? Nope? Just me?

Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 am  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

Anyone elses Tottenham/ Hawwy Wedknapp hate-ometer hit new levels of hateness?? Nope? Just me?

I don't think I could possibly dislike him anymore than I already do!!