: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:04 pm  

Amadeo Avogadro wrote:

Have a look on youtube. There are loads of examples. Put 'Christiano Ronaldo Diving Manual' into the search engine.

I will when I'm not at work

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:04 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Frank Lampard was about a foot away from him right next to the touchline. Ronaldo blatantly dived, the ref gave the free kick, Lampard pi55ed himself laughing because he couldn't believe the ref had bought it.

Cristiano Ronaldo Dive Vs Chelsea (LOOK AT LAMPARD) on a website no one knows the name of.

Champions League Final 2009 look at your entire team when Drogba gets sent off(when Terry spits on tevez) Then look at John Terry take his penalty

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:05 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Frank Lampard was about a foot away from him right next to the touchline. Ronaldo blatantly dived, the ref gave the free kick, Lampard pi55ed himself laughing because he couldn't believe the ref had bought it.

Cristiano Ronaldo Dive Vs Chelsea (LOOK AT LAMPARD) on a website no one knows the name of.

I dont believe you. Not the diving bit, the bit about Lampard laughing when he didn't get a decision

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:06 pm  

mutt1 wrote:

Yes!! imo Rooney was shocking in the first half only slightly better than Giggs but improved in the second half. Fletcher, Anderson and Carrick bossed the midfield pretty much all game and dominated Deco and Essien, i didn't even notice Lampard for most of the game.

People keep saying we're missing Ronaldo and i'd tend to agree on the attacking front but there is no way on this planet he could have put in the type of disiplined performance in attack and defence that Valencia put in on sunday Cashly would have had free reign on that side if Ronaldo had still been there.

Again Obertan looked pretty handy when he came off the bench and i'd like to see a bit more of him in games instead of the 10 minute cameos of the last few weeks but i guess he's still getting back to full fitness.

Cannot agree at all. Without Rooney, you would have had no out-ball at all. It was because of Rooney that you didn't spend most of the game camped within 30 metres of your goal.

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:08 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Please say it's true!!!
Can't see it though as Benitez has no money to spend. Isn't that right Liverpool fans?

Should we not get through in Europe, then yes, we won't have any money to spend.

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:08 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

I dont believe you. Not the diving bit, the bit about Lampard laughing when he didn't get a decision

I've just watched it, and Lampard can be forgiven on this occasion.

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:09 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

I suppose its another issue you don't care about when it comes to Chelsea? Drogba and Joe Cole?

Not really. I've made this point many times before.

If you take Ronaldo, for example. He may have dived 20 times. But he'll have been fouled 200 times without getting a free kick in the same time as those 20 dives happened. English football supporters regard diving as the worst type of cheating, but kicking a player in the air is fine by them. I don't agree with that, I think it's retarded.

I think that often a tackler will impede an opponent just enough to cause him to lose possession, but not enough to actually bring him down. Many refs won't give a free kick unless a player goes down. That forces a player to go down just to win a free kick that they should've got anyway.

IMO the biggest reason that players shouldn't dive is because if you're caught diving, you'll end up paying for it in future. You might win a penalty in one game, but you'll have 5 blatant pens not given after that when the refs see what you've done.

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:11 pm  

Sanchez wrote:

Champions League Final 2009 look at your entire team when Drogba gets sent off(when Terry spits on tevez) Then look at John Terry take his penalty

What's that got to do with Ronaldo diving, idiot?

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:13 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

If you take Ronaldo, for example. He may have dived 20 times. But he'll have been fouled 200 times without getting a free kick in the same time as those 20 dives happened.

Have I missed something? This is a joke, right?

: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:25 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Not really. I've made this point many times before.

If you take Ronaldo, for example. He may have dived 20 times. But he'll have been fouled 200 times without getting a free kick in the same time as those 20 dives happened. English football supporters regard diving as the worst type of cheating, but kicking a player in the air is fine by them. I don't agree with that, I think it's retarded.

I think that often a tackler will impede an opponent just enough to cause him to lose possession, but not enough to actually bring him down. Many refs won't give a free kick unless a player goes down. That forces a player to go down just to win a free kick that they should've got anyway.

IMO the biggest reason that players shouldn't dive is because if you're caught diving, you'll end up paying for it in future. You might win a penalty in one game, but you'll have 5 blatant pens not given after that when the refs see what you've done.

I can see where you coming from here, the only problem with giving a freekick because a player has had to avoid contact is that it is too subjective IMO.


Loads of footballers and fans are generally thick and dont actually know what a foul is anyway. When I used to ref all I would ever get when I gave a freekick was "I was going for the ball". Well yes but you didn't get it did you nob!

I nearly got it into a fight with an opposition player because his team mate fouled one our players, the ref said "I know you were going for the ball but you fouled the player" so his mate started screaming at the ref "You've just said he went for the ball!!! How can it be a foul?!!!" When I pointed out he didn't get the ball and made contact with my team mate he seemed to think this translated to me saying I'd just shagged his mum.