: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:19 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

Snap!!!!

Wish i could get to grips with it, it's pretty cool watching it, saw a bit of the World Poker series at the Rio Casino the other week.

stick to blackjack me thinks, simple maths!

I think i will stick to snap i have just lost 600,000 chips in about 10 minutes

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:26 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

That backs up my point about tournament play, some muppet will call you with nothing and luckily hit and your out. As that was a cash game you could continue in the game and your better play came through in the end and made the money back and more.

Yeah if you play in tournaments, especially MTT's you're going to need to get really lucky and win lots of coin flips to go on to win... That's why I play more cash games, they are much more profitable.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:43 pm  

Eden wrote:

Yeah if you play in tournaments, especially MTT's you're going to need to get really lucky and win lots of coin flips to go on to win... That's why I play more cash games, they are much more profitable.

In MTT's if you get a big hand early on (big pocket pair/AK,AQ) you should get your chips in. You will more than likely get a call as you, a: get a lot of idiots, and b: have a lot of people who want to steal a march on the opposition but don't have the patience to wait for a good hand. Sometimes it will go against you, that is Poker, but in my experience you won't do well in an MTT by playing passively and building up slowly. You want to get in front early and then use your big stack to bully people out of smaller pots.

The pros no doubt would say I'm wrong but thats the way I play and if you do get lucky early on you will money more often than not.

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:34 am  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

How many people would we want? And how do you go about doing a private tourney?

The number of people won't matter too much as long as we have enough.

To set up a private tourney we will need someone who has unlocked the reward to create them I think e.g. on PKR you have to be a silver member.

Is anybody high up enough to set it up??

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:58 am  

Eden wrote:

The number of people won't matter too much as long as we have enough.

To set up a private tourney we will need someone who has unlocked the reward to create them I think e.g. on PKR you have to be a silver member.

Is anybody high up enough to set it up??

I think its the same on quite a few sites, you need a certain number of points to be able to create.

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:17 pm  

I will sort the private tourney up and post a password to the tourney, but i am just waiting on a couple of poker sites to email me back, what would be the best site for you guys and best buy in?

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:40 pm  

pedpower wrote:

I will sort the private tourney up and post a password to the tourney, but i am just waiting on a couple of poker sites to email me back, what would be the best site for you guys and best buy in?

either full tilt or PKR with no more than $10 buy in.

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:56 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

That backs up my point about tournament play, some muppet will call you with nothing and luckily hit and your out. As that was a cash game you could continue in the game and your better play came through in the end and made the money back and more.

Me and group of friends set up our own league and we play once a week. The prize money is split between final league standing and then a final one-off table with your starting chips dependant on how many points you accrue during the league.

Hmm tend to disagree with pretty much all of what you've said regarding Cash games and tournaments really. Out of interest how long have you been playing the game and what stakes do you play at?

You'll always get muppets calling you for whatever reason be it irrationally with poop cards or a 'premium hand' in either situation. Unless a tournament is a turbo format or a cheap re-buy tournament it is always going to be about slowly building your stack, any kind of deep stack tournament that's not a fiver or whatever to buy into and that's what you'll read in any literature written about tournament play.

Also, regarding cash games I've not met anyone who is aiming to make a profit every hand. The rationale for most is to just finish a session in profit whether that consists of half an hour in a casino our multi-tabling all night at home. Often raising regularly and just looking for that one big pot from the fish on the table or the aggressive person who always tries to steal at the cut off when there's been nothing but a dodgy utg raise or something.

Robbo4 wrote:

I see where you are coming from but in a tournament situation you do get some muppets who will go all-in and get lucky simply because they think they are not playing with real money and are prepared to risk it. If they had say £200 of their money sat in front of them they wouldn't do it.

Not sure what kind of level tournament you're drawing this comparison to. Either way, if a player is just really aggressive in general or even just holding their favourite hand then they're more than happy to bet with that kind of money. I'm guessing you have little experience of cash games though because the dynamics of it are so incomparable to tournament play they may as well be different card games.

: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:07 pm  

kim-or-lee wrote:

Hmm tend to disagree with pretty much all of what you've said regarding Cash games and tournaments really. Out of interest how long have you been playing the game and what stakes do you play at?

You'll always get muppets calling you for whatever reason be it irrationally with poop cards or a 'premium hand' in either situation. Unless a tournament is a turbo format or a cheap re-buy tournament it is always going to be about slowly building your stack, any kind of deep stack tournament that's not a fiver or whatever to buy into and that's what you'll read in any literature written about tournament play.

Also, regarding cash games I've not met anyone who is aiming to make a profit every hand. The rationale for most is to just finish a session in profit whether that consists of half an hour in a casino our multi-tabling all night at home. Often raising regularly and just looking for that one big pot from the fish on the table or the aggressive person who always tries to steal at the cut off when there's been nothing but a dodgy utg raise or something.



Not sure what kind of level tournament you're drawing this comparison to. Either way, if a player is just really aggressive in general or even just holding their favourite hand then they're more than happy to bet with that kind of money. I'm guessing you have little experience of cash games though because the dynamics of it are so incomparable to tournament play they may as well be different card games.

good call mate

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:24 am  

pedpower wrote:

I will sort the private tourney up and post a password to the tourney, but i am just waiting on a couple of poker sites to email me back, what would be the best site for you guys and best buy in?

PKR for me... are you a silver member on there?

Any buy in is fine with me.