Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:41 pm  

Typical St Helens fan moaning about the ref.

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:18 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

If that is right about recievers having to go around the DB then both of his TD's were OPI.

Facemask even at 50/50 would still have negated the TD.

You lost get over it

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:33 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

You lost get over it

I can handle defeat, and i'm over the moon with the effort shown to get back in the game, but that was some of the worst officiating i've seen.

It got lost in the excitment of it all with it back and forth but the calls went against us especially in OT. Flagrant helmet to helmet (not called), clear as day facemask to end the game which is a 15 yard penalty and retention of the ball (not called), two questionable OPI calls not made on Fitzgerald (not called) at the same time one resulted in a phantom roughing the passer call on Warner where Jenkins was blocked into him.

They give that as roughing the passer but headbutting Rodgers with the crown of your helmet is fine.

Would we have won anyway...who knows. Especially the two by Fitz. If they were called they probably score anyway. The final facemask and helmet to helmet are unforgivable though.

I hope the Cardinals get murdered by New Orleans and the referee should be given a ban.

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:53 pm  

The Jets had a couple of really bad pass interference calls go against them and still won....and if I remember rightly there was an unseen/uncalled facemask by Woodson early in the second quarter too so its swings and roundabouts...though the facemask at the end did have me scratching my head a bit as it did look pretty clear cut...home-town officiating?? More than likely.

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:23 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I can handle defeat, and i'm over the moon with the effort shown to get back in the game, but that was some of the worst officiating i've seen.

It got lost in the excitment of it all with it back and forth but the calls went against us especially in OT. Flagrant helmet to helmet (not called), clear as day facemask to end the game which is a 15 yard penalty and retention of the ball (not called), two questionable OPI calls not made on Fitzgerald (not called) at the same time one resulted in a phantom roughing the passer call on Warner where Jenkins was blocked into him.

They give that as roughing the passer but headbutting Rodgers with the crown of your helmet is fine.

Would we have won anyway...who knows. Especially the two by Fitz. If they were called they probably score anyway. The final facemask and helmet to helmet are unforgivable though.

I hope the Cardinals get murdered by New Orleans and the referee should be given a ban.

Im sorry but these things happen in every game yeah when you write them down like that it makes them look worse but it happens to every team over the course of a season IMO. If it was any other team than yours I bet it wouldnt bother you half as much if you noticed them at all.

I would be pretty annoyed if it was my team but at the end of the day you cant do nothing about it apart from coming back next year and giving it another go!

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:35 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Im sorry but these things happen in every game yeah when you write them down like that it makes them look worse but it happens to every team over the course of a season IMO. If it was any other team than yours I bet it wouldnt bother you half as much if you noticed them at all.

I would be pretty annoyed if it was my team but at the end of the day you cant do nothing about it apart from coming back next year and giving it another go!

Of course i wouldn't care if it was any other team and your right we can't do anything about it, but questions need to be asked of why the officials missed two blatant attacks at our QB in OT. They were hardly disguised, and isn't there an official who watches the pocket/QB? Along with what others have said is blatant OPI (personally i'm not sure on the PI).All especially in a year when QB's are wrapped in cotton wool. As somebody else has said, if it was Brady taking the helmet to helmet or facemask it is a flag every day of the week.

Or do you disagree that it was a facemask/helmet to helmet? Also i don't think there are 3 potentially wrong calls which directly resulted in scores in every game or for every team, certainly not in a game where it is win or you are out.

I'm not saying we'd have won or that we deserved to with the way our defence played (we probably didn't), but it is more annoying losing a game like that and to have an exceptional game marred by the fact the refs missed major calls.

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:47 pm  

Shit happens like I say not my team so I dont care

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:00 pm  

I love it when people don't read what i put.

For OPI to get called the receiver basically has to kill the cornerback and the 5 yard rule does not apply, this is why OPI calls are so rare.

While the facemask call was wrong the offensive pass interference calls were correctly judged

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:04 pm  

danny boy wrote:

I love it when people don't read what i put.

For OPI to get called the receiver basically has to kill the cornerback and the 5 yard rule does not apply, this is why OPI calls are so rare.

While the facemask call was wrong the offensive pass interference calls were correctly judged

Fitzgerald physically pushed and ran down Woodson. If that isn't PI then why in circumstances when there are tipped balls, jump balls etc is that OPI where it may be as little as pulling the shirt or knocking the defenders hand?(Genuine question).

PI is:

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

Re: NFL Chat 2 : Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:37 pm  

In an attempt to now move the thread on...

How many points did everybody get in that fantasy thing? I got 111, where that places me out of the people in HH's league i don't know.

What about winners from this weeks games.

With the Packers now out (ROBBED!!) i'm going to support my two favourite remaining players Ray Rice and Brett Favre. Part of me wants Favre to win it because obviously he is my favourite player ever but i just can't support the Vikes wholeheartedly with them being rivals.

Cards @ Saints- Saints
Ravens @ Colts- Ravens
Cowboys @ Vikes- Vikes
Jets @ Chargers- Jets

Also, i find it strange that both sunday winning teams (Cards, Ravens) are now on the Saturday with 6 days rest. The Saturday winners are now on Sunday with 8 days rest. Surely it makes sense to do it the opposite and give everybody 7 days rest.