Re: Cycling : Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:08 am  

Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:

Last night was the livestrong anniversary. Lance told the crowd its been a tough 2 weeks. He's had better and he's definitely had worse.

Now I know the chance of dying from cancer is classes as bad, but to me its almost as if he's saying so what if I cheated. Compared to cancer its small beans.

I understand your point, but put into context, considering he was at the Livestrong Foundation anniversary, and not there to defend himself, I think that's a reasonable thing to say.

I agree that outside that environment his attitude probably wouldn't change too much but I don't think too much can be read into him addressing that particular crowd.

Re: Cycling : Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:20 am  

I don't know too much about Livestrong. I know they do something but I couldn't tell you what they do other than giving people with cancer hope. The hope that Lance Armstrong gave people was that he got off his death bed and went on to win the Tour de France 7 times.

That is why the wrist bands are yellow. That is why their branding has yellow in it.

What on earth does Livestrong do now seeing as their poster boy got off his death bed and didn't win the Tour de France 7 times? What happens when people start asking whether his doping regime contributed to the cancer in the first place?

Do the worldwide community care about his doping? I don't live in the USA but what are Americans saying? Sure Nike and Trek have dropped him but he was of no longer any use to them anyway. Lance Armstrong had stopped selling bikes for Trek a few years ago.

The best thing Lance can do for Livestrong is to clear out of the way and let them define what kind or organisation they want to be in the future.

The best thing Lance is likely to do is to shut up and disappear . The best thing he should do is to come clean but if he does that then he will end up in jail having previously sworn in front of a grand jury that he didn't dope.

[John_D]

Re: Cycling : Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:06 am  

Froome saying it's Wiggins for the Giro and him for the Tour next year

Re: Cycling : Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:49 pm  

Not seen that but did see Porte saying he wanted to ride on Wiggins' team whether that was Giro or Tour.

Re: Cycling : Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:38 pm  

Interesting that Richie doesn't want to ride for Froomedog.

Well go on I'll say it

YEHAAAA jesters dead! That's it the big Texan cheat has been pushed out of cycling forever.

GOOD RIDDANCE!

Re: Cycling : Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:54 pm  

Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:

Well go on I'll say it

YEHAAAA jesters dead! That's it the big Texan cheat has been pushed out of cycling forever.

GOOD RIDDANCE!

The big mistake everyone is making right now is pretending that Lance Armstrong is ancient history. He wasn't - he was riding with the current peloton just about 2 years ago.

Delighted to see Lance get his legacy ripped to pieces but what about cycling itself? The case is harming the sport again and is bringing forward a whole new set of questions.

Re: Cycling : Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:13 pm  

I think the worst thing is that having stripped LA of 7 tour titles, they can't award them to anyone else as the nearest contenders are all tainted too, so they've effectively declared those tours null !

Re: Cycling : Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:03 am  

2013 route... http://inrng.com/2012/10/2013-tour-de-france/

2013 route... http://inrng.com/2012/10/2013-tour-de-france/

Re: Cycling : Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:13 am  

BartonFlyer wrote:

I think the worst thing is that having stripped LA of 7 tour titles, they can't award them to anyone else as the nearest contenders are all tainted too, so they've effectively declared those tours null !

What you think is bad, I think is right.

If the UCI had taken steps when they knew that dodgy stuff was going on then we might have had legitimate, clean riders winning in 99-2005.

For now we must look at those years with distain and make sure those mistakes are never repeated again.

[John_D]

Re: Cycling : Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:22 am  

So what we saying about the Tour route this year? Looks a bit of a beast. Not Wiggo territory, that's for sure.

Bastille Day, summit finish on Mont Ventoux. Already sticking the farm on Tommy Voeckler for that one