Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:53 pm  

Rafa's a bit like a kid whose first girlfriend dumped him then went on to become a movie star.

Every time she appears in the press he can't resist telling all his mates how they used to be a couple and she made such a mistake getting rid of him.

Still, I suppose he needs to fill his days somehow.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:12 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I see Wafa is still embarrassing himself by unnecessarily commenting on Liverpool's activities and pleading for his job back.

Why should his comments be classed as "unnecessary"? As a former manager he is entitled to his opinion on how we are going. With him being unemployed at the moment, he doesn't have any football commitments to focus on.

Should Moyes' comment about Fabregas be deemed "unnecessary"? After all, Moyes did seem to suggest that Fabregas hurled verbal abuse at the referee, but he had no proof of this. I would suggest him comment was more "unnecessary" than Benitez's was.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:13 pm  

Benitez being linked with the Atlético Madrid job.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:17 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

Why should his comments be classed as "unnecessary"? As a former manager he is entitled to his opinion on how we are going. With him being unemployed at the moment, he doesn't have any football commitments to focus on.

Should Moyes' comment about Fabregas be deemed "unnecessary"? After all, Moyes did seem to suggest that Fabregas hurled verbal abuse at the referee, but he had no proof of this. I would suggest him comment was more "unnecessary" than Benitez's was.

It was entirely unnecessary for David Moyes to comment on an incident that did or didn't happen in the tunnel at an Everton game. What goes on at Everton games is none of his business. Who does he think he is?

Now commenting negatively on the transfer activity of a club you no longer have any kind of connection with, that's entirely necessary. If Rafa hadn't stood up and got his name in the press (again) in this entirely selfless way then Liverpool fans would never have known the truth. He's a hero and should be given the freedom of the city.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:21 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

It was entirely unnecessary for David Moyes to comment on an incident that did or didn't happen in the tunnel at an Everton game. What goes on at Everton games is none of his business. Who does he think he is?

Now commenting negatively on the transfer activity of a club you no longer have any kind of connection with, that's entirely necessary. If Rafa hadn't stood up and got his name in the press (again) in this entirely selfless way then Liverpool fans would never have known the truth. He's a hero and should be given the freedom of the city.

¡Ole!

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:38 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

It was entirely unnecessary for David Moyes to comment on an incident that did or didn't happen in the tunnel at an Everton game. What goes on at Everton games is none of his business. Who does he think he is?

Now commenting negatively on the transfer activity of a club you no longer have any kind of connection with, that's entirely necessary. If Rafa hadn't stood up and got his name in the press (again) in this entirely selfless way then Liverpool fans would never have known the truth. He's a hero and should be given the freedom of the city.

He was asked by the BBC to do an interview. (yeah, imagine that)
Interviewers tend to ask questions. (Unbelieavable aren't they)
He was asked about the Torres transfer. (Mmm, wonder who signed Torres for Liverpool)
It wasn't a negative answer. (but won't stop people twisting it)
He said LAST YEAR there was talk of him being worth £70m. (he possibly was)
He said Torres was not playing at the same level. (He wasn't)
He said good money but COULD be even better. (Which is correct, if Torres hadn't sulked for the last 12 months and let his performances drop)

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:52 pm  

flipper wrote:

obviously not blessed with the skill of a Scholes or Giggs, but to say he is gash is rubbish. His combination down the right with Beckham when they were both in their primes was superb.

I don't actually have a problem with Hansen, United fan apparently, Neville obviously doesn't like scousers and he is honest about that, i think it was Carragher who came out and said he understood what he meant because there are some players who understand the rivalry. Gerrard i think it was who said how much the United boys (presumably including Neville) made him welcome when he first got called up by england.

Other than his anti scouse feelings - i think you'll find he normally talks a reasonable amount of sense and is pretty articulate and confident for a footballer.

from the mirror

“For me he’s the best full-back the Premier League’s had. And also just behind David Beckham probably one of the best crossers of the ball we’ve seen. People always talk about the rivalry between Liverpool and Man United and of course it exists. We want to beat them and they want to beat us but I have great respect for Man United as a club and I hope that’s vice versa. Were two of the most successful teams, two of the biggest teams in the world, and for me Gary Neville’s been one of the main reasons why that’s happened. A great player, great pro and to play at that level for so long is a fantastic achievement so I take my hat off to him.” - Carragher

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:57 pm  

flipper wrote:

from the mirror

“For me he’s the best full-back the Premier League’s had. And also just behind David Beckham probably one of the best crossers of the ball we’ve seen. People always talk about the rivalry between Liverpool and Man United and of course it exists. We want to beat them and they want to beat us but I have great respect for Man United as a club and I hope that’s vice versa. Were two of the most successful teams, two of the biggest teams in the world, and for me Gary Neville’s been one of the main reasons why that’s happened. A great player, great pro and to play at that level for so long is a fantastic achievement so I take my hat off to him.” - Carragher

I'm not a fan of his at all but I have to say fair do's to Carragher for that. Very classy of him.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:02 pm  

The Torres truck I thought the LFC fans got over him straight away with the new strike force.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:01 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

It was entirely unnecessary for David Moyes to comment on an incident that did or didn't happen in the tunnel at an Everton game. What goes on at Everton games is none of his business. Who does he think he is?

Now commenting negatively on the transfer activity of a club you no longer have any kind of connection with, that's entirely necessary. If Rafa hadn't stood up and got his name in the press (again) in this entirely selfless way then Liverpool fans would never have known the truth. He's a hero and should be given the freedom of the city.

I see that you are attempting to use sarcasm to justify your response and i applaud your attempt, but I think you have missed the reasoning behind my post.

Has Moyes got proof of what Fabregas "allegedly" said? He hasn't. Did Lee Mason mention this so called incident in his match report? He didn't. Therefore, without proof why did Moyes say what he said? It was unnecessary and it also brought unnecessary media speculation onto Fabregas. If Mason said nothing in his match report, that would only confirm that nothing happened.

As for Rafa commenting on Liverpool, he's still liked by fans at the club and he's said that he would love to come back as manager one day. If he was saying things about Ferguson & Man Utd, Wenger & Arsenal, Mancini & Man City etc, those comments would be unnecessary because he has no affliction to those teams.

I'm sure you will attempt to respond in another sarcastic manner Andrew, but that doesn't concern me in the slightest. I'm here to debate about football, and that debate will continue whether people agree with my opinion or not.

Cheers.