Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:27 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Thats a quality pick up and I cant even begin to tell you how annoyed I am the we didnt even attempt to get him and/or Boldin

Enjoy being third in the AFC East next year...

1. NY Jets
2. Miami
3. Patriots
4. Bills

A good draft for the Bills (Clausen) and i'd consider putting you at 4.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:45 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Enjoy being third in the AFC East next year...

1. NY Jets
2. Miami
3. Patriots
4. Bills

A good draft for the Bills (Clausen) and i'd consider putting you at 4.

We have 12 picks so Im not worried 1 little bit

With the smartest coach in the game Im sure we will turn them into quality players/ higher picks next year

Even if we are not at our best (like last year) we can still compete for the division

<<<<<<<<<<<< Sits back and awaits Conroys Tapes mumbo jumbo

I dont think the Dolphins are that good even with Marshall sure he will improve them but they still need more players, they are apparently trying to trade Ted "drops alotta" Ginn (good luck with thats BTW hes shoite) so their still short on the WR front IMO, and if Chad Henne gets injured they are pretty much competing with the Bills for last place. I think the Jests could go well but I still reckon that Santonio Holmes will get a longer ban, then again apart from 1 game (the super bowl) he didnt really do an awful lot to help the Steelers win IMO so I hope he starts every game , he is far too much of an off field distraction and now hes back in NY where all his drug taking homies are I can see him being in prison soon enough where he belongs. They are pretty much reliant on Tomlinson getting back to his best again aswell IMO, Shonn Greene is good but with Leon Washington coming back from a serious injury(if hes still there next season) all it will take is an injury to one of them and there strugging again.

I must admit the Jests Defensive scares me a lot, but Im sure we will find a way around them

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:38 pm  

I have in the past had a difference of opinion with ST Conroy over his view of Josh McDaniels but i have to admit he needs to work on his relationship with his players.

After a few weeks in the job his QB wanted a trade,all season there was friction between him and Marshall and now he's gone.Also now Dumervil and Scheffler are refusing to paticapate in off season workouts and want to leave.If he keeps going he's going to have no good players left.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:24 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

I have in the past had a difference of opinion with ST Conroy over his view of Josh McDaniels but i have to admit he needs to work on his relationship with his players.

After a few weeks in the job his QB wanted a trade,all season there was friction between him and Marshall and now he's gone.Also now Dumervil and Scheffler are refusing to paticapate in off season workouts and want to leave.If he keeps going he's going to have no good players left.

I take this as an admission that i was correct all along! (i'm joking)

McDaniels is an idiot, he's ruining his team. He ran Cutler out of town in exchange for a guy who can't throw downfield (and now Quinn also). He's lost his best reciever, is ruining his second best reciever Eddie Royal as a result of getting a crap QB and could lose his best TE and DE/OLB. Add that to trading his first round pick this year for a rubbish CB.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:18 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

McDaniels is an idiot, he's ruining his team. He ran Cutler out of town in exchange for a guy who can't throw downfield (and now Quinn also)

Accuracy > cannon arm, that's why he got rid of Cutler, the system requires accuracy and not a massive arm, it minimises mistakes and rips to shreds both cover 2 and aggressive defences.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:04 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Accuracy > cannon arm, that's why he got rid of Cutler, the system requires accuracy and not a massive arm, it minimises mistakes and rips to shreds both cover 2 and aggressive defences.

I think that is pretty much 100% BS to be honest.

I'm sure Chad Pennington is the most accurate QB of all time. Of course you'd want him running your offence not somebody like Manning/Favre/Rivers?

It might minimise mistakes but i do not buy it rips to shreds defences. Defences can close in on Denver and stack the box since Orton can throw it about 10 yards at maximum. Cutler can stretch the field.

Aside from that Cutler has a better arm and is more accurate than Orton with the exception of this year where Orton had a completion percentage of 62.1 to 60.5.

2008
Cutler- 62.3
Orton- 58.5

2007
Cutler- 63.6
Orton- 53.8 (although only 3 games)

2006
Cutler- 59.1
Orton- N/A

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:35 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

2008
Cutler- 62.3
Orton- 58.5

2007
Cutler- 63.6
Orton- 53.8 (although only 3 games)

2006
Cutler- 59.1
Orton- N/A

And turnovers? Cutler is an interception machine, the reason why O'Connell only lasted a year in NE, why Cutler didn't even make it to pre-season etc.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:29 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

And turnovers? Cutler is an interception machine, the reason why O'Connell only lasted a year in NE, why Cutler didn't even make it to pre-season etc.

Cutler's interception stats are misleading - last year he had a frankly awful offensive line in front of him, a promising but ultimately mediocre receiving core and a back with 2nd season syndrome. The season before he threw a ridiculous amount of passes as he tried to compensate for the Broncos then hapless defense.

Admittedly, he made some ridiculous throws and he needs to make better decisions but he'll improve no end this year.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:58 am  

Kyle Boller signs with the Raiders as Gradkowski tore a pec this week and will be out for 4 weeks approx.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:34 am  

Leon Washington to stay at the Jets which is excellent news.
Jets are also in talks with Jason Taylor coming over too which, after some of the things he's said in the past about Jets fans, could be interesting!