Poor coaching : Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:51 pm  

I have watched keighley since 1966 through good times and bad ,reading the posting about poor coaching ,iagree with the statement barry,s methods do not impress me ,namely ,poor touch kicking from penaltys,dropped passes on second and third tackles . good teams make only 3 or 4 mistakes a game , I know we have seen an improvment the last two seasons but to even think about promotion is unthinkable at the moment and the question has to be asked is it near the time when the coach has to be replaced to push us onto the next step of playing in the championship ,barry has brought some poor players to the club namely reed .benjafield and the injured brown and let some good players go like adam mitchell and richard knight .iknow this posting will not be popular with barrys fans but it has to be said .

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:22 pm  

My own view on last Thursday is that if players are tired after 50 minutes and their physical fatigue affects their ability, agilty and mental focus then they need to get to the blinking gym if they want to be a part of Keighley in NL1 then SL.

Do we need another trainer or do we need a firm hand and fines for those not attending training, we are not the laughing stock of NL2 anymore so the excuse that the players have other jobs has to end. If you miss trainer for anything other than giving birth then you don't play. We should field those that really want to play, those who train hard, those who turn out week in, week out, reserves, 1st team, friendlies etc.

I say this of course sat in my comfy office being handed a coffee with nothing planned tonight but having a play fight with the kids and watching a DVD.

PS. Don't agree with Barry going.

Re: Poor coaching : Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:14 pm  

william dunford wrote:

I have watched keighley since 1966 through good times and bad ,reading the posting about poor coaching ,iagree with the statement barry,s methods do not impress me ,namely ,poor touch kicking from penaltys,dropped passes on second and third tackles . good teams make only 3 or 4 mistakes a game , I know we have seen an improvment the last two seasons but to even think about promotion is unthinkable at the moment and the question has to be asked is it near the time when the coach has to be replaced to push us onto the next step of playing in the championship ,barry has brought some poor players to the club namely reed .benjafield and the injured brown and let some good players go like adam mitchell and richard knight .iknow this posting will not be popular with barrys fans but it has to be said .

dropping passes on the second and third tackles is not a method?! It's a lack of concentration or just a case of over enthusiasm, sometimes it comes off and you score a belting try!but the icing on the cake is that barry reads this forum and he will love the critisism I'm sure.Who would you get to replace a man of his undoubted efforts over the last few years that's any better on our budget??? And yes I am a fan of Barry caus he sweats blood for our club,i agree however some of our current squad aren't ready for the step up but to let Barry go? As del boy would say , no way pedro!!

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:52 pm  

With the exception of Dewsbury, Id say we are on equal with the rest of NL2.

We have had some good results this season. Beat York for the 1st time in 7 meetings on good friday. won at Oldham for 1st time for years.

As for replacing the Bazza. No chance. He is part of the club, not only him, but his whole family are too. The club wouldn't be the same without him. If the club were thinking of changing the coach, then I think they would have let him go to dewsbury last year.

I've not known a cougars without Barry, as 2006, his 1st year as coach, was also my 1st year as a supporter.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:55 pm  

We are naive in certain aspects though.

Our speed at the play the ball was atrocious compared to Dewsbury.

Watch the gam again and see how they take the tackle quickly, on their knees, and play it quickly.

We spent half the time on our backs.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:18 pm  

In posession, Dewsbury were also standing deep - just as we were coached at school (attacking side's threequarters stand in line the corner flag so that when you receive the ball you're at top speed). When have our threequarters ever stood deep when attacking and how often do they receive the ball when thhey're standing still?

Poor decisions by both refs and the touch judge gave Dewsbury 18 points.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:13 pm  

I can't comment on Barry's coaching ability - not qualified to. 1 point to consider though. Dewsbury came in for him last season and he stayed with us. I wonder if they're thinking they missed a great opportunity at the moment.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:29 pm  

If anything we need a on field leader, rather than a new coach.

We need someone, who can slow the game down when needed, but also can speed it up.
I wonder how much better we would have been, if we hadn't lost out on the Aussie half back we tried to get.


One thing to consider. There really was two leagues, in our league this year.

Dewsbury and everyone else.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:37 pm  

andysilsden wrote:

If the club were thinking of changing the coach, then I think they would have let him go to dewsbury last year.

If my memory serves me correctly they did let him go but he chose not to.

: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:26 pm  

View from the full back wrote:

If my memory serves me correctly they did let him go but he chose not to.

Someone from the club will know better, but i thought it was the club gave him permission to speak to Dewsbury and then offered him an improved contract to stay.