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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:12 am  
This was the main topic of our conversation yesterday, the team have grown together and hsving barry on the pitch took away the ability to play as they have become accustomed to imo, he should have directed from the sidelines as he usualy does and put a reserve in to cover for presley instead of switching others positions to put himself in the squad

The team i feel did start to play as they got used to having barry on the pitch though, problem was that 75 minutes had already passed by
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:26 am  
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So, why no criticism of our coach?


If we don't have any readily-available substitutes for Presley then we have no chance of staying up.

Can anyone explain why he played today in such an important game?



666 i hope you dont mind me cherry picking bits of your post.

I have to say i was shocked when the teams were called out.

The talk around us, was why is Barry playing, why hasn't one of the squad being picked.
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:55 am  
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So, why no criticism of our coach?

He regularly 'rests' Jermaine (who played out of his skin today in my opinion) but refused to substitute himself!

Perhaps all of his shouting took its toll on him as he was way off the pace. If we don't have any readily-available substitutes for Presley then we have no chance of staying up. Barry Eaton was leaden-footed today (apart from his try - which was made by Hutchinson and could have been scored by anyone after the hard work had been done) and both of the last two tries in the first half were scored in his sector of the pitch when he was unable to meet the pace of the Widnes players to even attempt to stop them scoring. Then what did he do? Shout, rant and rave again.

Can anyone explain why he played today in such an important game?

He's done wonders as a coach this season off the pitch but I believe that's where he should stay.

OK; we didn't lose any League points today, which is the only consolation for me but, as a player Barry lost any credibilty.

To play a game with 12 men in a semi-final is criminal.

Other 'posts' about how we can attract more support can only be answered by the comment: 'REDUCE THE ADMISSION PRICE'.

The rest of the team were good with great performances from several players but what's happened to Brendan Rawlins - if he loses any more weight then we might as well play him on the wing as, on today's and last week's performances, he couldn't break his way out of a paper bag at prop! Jermaine Wray made far more headway than Rawlins - it's a pity that HE doesn't play with the passion of Jermaine.

As usual, I await the criticism which I used to receive but, after driving 170 miles and paying to watch today's game then I feel that I need to have my say.


There's nothing wrong with having your say as long as you realise that others have the same right :wink:

I have to admit to being surprised by Barry playing and can only think he was resting players for the important "survival" games to come.

On the playing front, he didn't look at the races at the start, but by the end he was one of the best players on the pitch (in my opinion)

He made the angled run and gave the short pass that put Jermaine in

He saw Hutch on the wing, threw the long pass, ran to back him up, was in the right place to receive the return ball and score an excellent try.

I think he also threw the pass that made the last try.

These tries were not "gimmies", Widnes were desperate to keep us to nil.

His legs may be gone but he's still got the brain (but I wouldn't want him to play every week :D )
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:47 am  
Enjoyed the day and a nice friendly ground to visit as well. Was shocked to see Barry playing, but nice to see him score near the end.

Only minus points on the day was the number of 'sunday drivers' on the road between Halifax and Keighley (just managed to get in for kick off!) and nearly getting killed by a cricket ball in the burger queue at half time. Fair do's to the batsman, it was a hell of a hit!

The Keighley players showed up well, but the main thing for me was that we managed to cut out alot of the bad discipline and stupid defensive mistakes that have cost us recently and we had someone at full back who can actually catch a high ball (Flynn is a winger by trade but is fair better under the high ball than the other three we've tried at full back this year).

Good luck for staying up and sadly I'll miss our league visit as I'm on my holidays.
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:50 am  
I didn't think we were bad, but if we had much more creativity when attacking, the scoreline might have been very different.

Widnes had a good defence and it was up to us to break it. We didn't.

I applauded your sprinter who ran the length of the pitch and scored a try and I noticed a few other Keighley fans doing the same.

Anyway, fair play to the Widnes fans. I knew you'd give your team a proper backing and I was a bit jealous that we didn't seem to give our team the same level of vocal backing. You're a team I've had a soft spot for ever since I went to watch you when you were in The Super League with a friend of mine who follows Widnes.

I hope you can finally get in to The Super League so I can have a team to look out for on the TV. :BOW:
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:02 pm  
A great day and one of the friendliest groups of fans around look forward to coming back for the last game of the regular season .
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:34 pm  
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I didn't think we were bad, but if we had much more creativity when attacking, the scoreline might have been very different.

Widnes had a good defence and it was up to us to break it. We didn't.

I applauded your sprinter who ran the length of the pitch and scored a try and I noticed a few other Keighley fans doing the same.

Anyway, fair play to the Widnes fans. I knew you'd give your team a proper backing and I was a bit jealous that we didn't seem to give our team the same level of vocal backing. You're a team I've had a soft spot for ever since I went to watch you when you were in The Super League with a friend of mine who follows Widnes.

I hope you can finally get in to The Super League so I can have a team to look out for on the TV. :BOW:


Ah mate thank you very much. I enjoyed the day, the weather was brilliant even if the coach ride was a bit lengthy. I have to agree with you all and wonder why there were only a few hundred keighley fans but hey, i like the diehards and respect you all for staying the 80.
I hope we get into super league more than you know, and if we retain the cup our chances are even higher so i guess i have to thank you for the day and the result.

Every ounce of luck for you to stay in this league! :D
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:51 pm  
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Ah mate thank you very much. I enjoyed the day, the weather was brilliant even if the coach ride was a bit lengthy. I have to agree with you all and wonder why there were only a few hundred keighley fans but hey, i like the diehards and respect you all for staying the 80.
I hope we get into super league more than you know, and if we retain the cup our chances are even higher so i guess i have to thank you for the day and the result.

Every ounce of luck for you to stay in this league! :D


Thanks. :BOW:

It always looks like an invasion when a decent team turns up to Cougar Park because their fans all seem to wear replica shirts. Not many Keighley fans seem to wear replica shirts so it's not so clear how many of our fans are there.

That sounds like a desperate excuse actually, but that's how it is. :lol:

Our numbers should have been better, but I don't think they were as bad as they may have seemed.
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:13 pm  
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Thanks. :BOW:

It always looks like an invasion when a decent team turns up to Cougar Park because their fans all seem to wear replica shirts. Not many Keighley fans seem to wear replica shirts so it's not so clear how many of our fans are there.


Conner, our shirt isnt the best in the world is it.
I would say its aimed more at kids, rather than a adult.

Which is a shame. I have not got this one as i think its a very poor effort.
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Re: Cougars 18 Widnes 48 : Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:16 pm  
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Not many Keighley fans seem to wear replica shirts.


I'd love to come down wearing a replica shirt, especially if it was as nice as Widnes'.

Sadly I think both our kits look naff. So that's at least £40 the club's missed out on.

I think next time around they should keep the home kit relatively conservative and aim it towards adults. Then have an outlandish away kit aimed at the kids.
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